Last edited by Sylvia; 11-14-2012 at 02:24 AM. Reason: to add quoted part
"Randy [Starkman (1960-April 16, 2012)] lived by the same motto as the rest of us. The Olympics isn’t every four years, it’s every single day. He just got it." --Canadian Olympic kayaker Adam van Koeverden
That's good to know. Do you know if it's official policy?
Since we are not the skating clubs hosting the event, of course it's easy for me to say "it's not that much more expense".
Don't competitors with 2gps this year all have byes for one reason or another anyway? And for very few exceptions, it has been so. The year Czisny had to qualify, she did it in the state she trained in, going only from Detroit to Ann Arbor. So she went to Canada, came home and then to France. Which I think is what would still have happened without sectionals, where she just did enough to win. It would be nice to have a bye; I didn't remember fans crying foul over her not having one.
I seem to remember Murakami had to do regionals this year. So skaters in other countries do qualifying too even with 2 gps.
As for medical byes, as you can see even many here disagree on what policy improves skaters' health. I think people need to agree on that first before any change happens; on top of that, I believe a policy like that should apply to all skaters across all events instead of a sub-group on one qualifying instance.
Anyway, I don't believe rules based on the majority, but I believe the same policy should apply to everyone and across all events. It's simpler, fairer, and creates fewer political complications.
Last edited by jlai; 11-14-2012 at 05:48 AM.
It is also true that something like 90% of back problems are not something that are solved by any kind of surgical treatment, & even bulging discs, the standard treatment 90% of the time is PT and rest. Surgical treatment of bulging discs would only be done ahead of something like physical theory and rest (and presumably not doing triple jumps) if it were really serious like hitting a nerve or impacting other bodily functions. If it were that serious one can usually not move wthout pain and painkillers let alone skate.
We have no idea what Rachael's specific condition is but she has had bulging discs for over 6 years and still skated so it makes me guess that that it is not the rare type of bulging discs that is impacting bodily functions requiring surgery. So it would seem that she has the type of bulging disc that 90% of back sufferers have and the treatment for that is PT, rest, steroid injections, etc. it might be the case that simply not skating will help her. It could also be too that the headlines are wrong - maybe it is not bulging discs but something else with the back structurally where she could delay treatment for 6 years.
But If the headlines are right and it is bulging discs - and she still was able to train for 6 years with the condition (& do quite well) and doctors let her, not believing that twisting her body would worsen her condition - as a matter of logic, it does not seem like her back condition is that serious (at least in the beginning, her continuing to train could have made it more serious) if she was able to delay treatment for over 6 years. I remember reading that headline 2 years ago and finding it astonishing it was really bulging discs because i thought what doctor would allow you to do triple jumps if you had bulging discs. Doctors do not let you pick up anything, my doctor complains that my pocket book is too heavy to carry on my arm because you are not suppose to put pressure on the back. i doubt any doctor would recommend anyone with a serious bulging disc issue do triple jumps and layout spins.
So we can only hope that Rachael has the former condition and that her bulging discs could be solved by PT and they can be put back in place and that by not competing the problem will be solved. I also hope that Rachel's continuing to skate did not turn a mild problem into something serious. Her health is more important than skating and I really hope her condition is not that serious. A more serious back condition could call into question Rachael's ability to skate at all, or skate for quite a long time, which would be a real shame.
Last edited by Blondie12; 11-14-2012 at 09:24 AM.
There some other things like spinal decompression, but No insurance would pay for a more serious option unless the standard treatment was followed first, let alone if they know that the person twists their back every day doing triple jumps. Hopefuly Rachael not attempting to twist her back will solve her back problems and allow the disc to move back into place & that there is not a more serious structural problem.
Last edited by Blondie12; 11-14-2012 at 09:18 AM.
I would say open up nationals. We all know who the top skaters are, 10 girls or so. Let Rachael go to nationals every year if she wants, if you limit it to any skater who skated internationally in say the last years, the pool isn't that big. Indeed pairs would only be 5 or 6 couples. You could make nationals so that you have alot of skaters but maybe only top 24 advance to long program. How long would it take 50 girls to do the short program? Not long, and they could collect massive fees.