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    Quote Originally Posted by KCC View Post
    Isn't Assateague where the little ponies live? (Vague memories since I've not been there since the mid '80's.) I hope the storm surge does not wash them (or any people, of course) away!
    Thought you might be interested in this.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stormy View Post
    Does anyone in NJ know where residents of Hoboken evacuated to? My co-worker's daughter lives in Hoboken and he can't reach her. They want to drive down to get her but don't know where the shelters are.
    Do they know for sure she went to a shelter? A lot of Hoboken residents are still in their apartments. I understand they're only evacuating those who really need to go.

    They may want to contact the American Red Cross, or her employer's central office, to see if either know her location.
    And so, dear Lord, it is with deep sadness that we turn over to you this young woman, whose dream to ride on a giant swan resulted in her death. Maybe it is your way of telling us... to buy American.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stormy View Post
    Does anyone in NJ know where residents of Hoboken evacuated to? My co-worker's daughter lives in Hoboken and he can't reach her. They want to drive down to get her but don't know where the shelters are.
    Some went to the shelter at Bergen Community College in Paramus and I heard some went to a shelter in Hackensack near the Coach House Diner (sorry I don't have an exact address). I'm know there are shelters in other areas but I specifically heard Hackensack and Paramus were getting people from Hoboken.

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    Coming home from work today, had to detour so many times due to closed streets. Some of the things I saw on my 15 minute ride: telephone poles snapped in half like toothpicks, trees on top of houses and cars, siding torn off the sides of houses, cars lined up and down the block at the only gas station with electricity - one line for cars and one line for people with gas cans for their generators. Literally it looks like someone dropped a bomb on my town.

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    a 4 block stretch of my neighborhood has been without power since Monady; a tree crashed on a transformer as far as we've been told. My building is in the 4 block stretch.
    But compared to all the horror stories I'm hearing, I really can't complain.
    I've been bunking down at a coworker's place.
    Work has been insane, though. Half the staff hasn't been able to get here (I work in a hospital lab) so those of us that have been able have been doing double shifts. Several hospitals downtown were evacuated and some of the patients were brought here. so we are pretty busy.
    Since today is Halloween I baked Kitty Litter Cakes to cheer everyone up. They looked totally disgusting.

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    Marge, I'm glad to hear you're safe. Bravo to you and your co-workers for doing double shifts so that patients receive all the care they need.

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    Thanks Marge for your efforts!! I remembering worrying about our patients during last summer's no-power-for-five-days-ish in D.C. Fortunately everyone did fine, as far as I know...but I can't imagine how scary it would be during this time to also have an ongoing serious health problem.

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    Glad you are safe Marge and have a place to stay that has power. Its tough to work through a disaster at a hospital so best of luck.

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    A map of restored NYC subway service is below. Note the lack of service south of 34th Street, and in Western Brooklyn:
    http://www.mta.info/sites/default/fi...pOct312012.pdf
    And so, dear Lord, it is with deep sadness that we turn over to you this young woman, whose dream to ride on a giant swan resulted in her death. Maybe it is your way of telling us... to buy American.

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    Quote Originally Posted by judiz View Post
    Some went to the shelter at Bergen Community College in Paramus and I heard some went to a shelter in Hackensack near the Coach House Diner (sorry I don't have an exact address). I'm know there are shelters in other areas but I specifically heard Hackensack and Paramus were getting people from Hoboken.
    If residents were in a safe place, they were told to "shelter in place" and the Guard brought them food and water. As a result, many people are just waiting if they can, but the tension is getting bad. The National Guard started rescuing people who had been trapped in their homes/apartments today. After being brought to City Hall, I was told they were transported to the Wallace School or Hoboken High School. However, I read this tonight:

    Quote Originally Posted by http://hoboken.patch.com/articles/thousands-in-hoboken-trapped-in-apartments-in-flooded-areas
    The shelter in the Wallace School was moved to two new locations—Sts Peter & Paul and St. Matthew Trinity—because the back up [generator] failed.
    Maybe that was why Bergen CC and the Hackensack shelter are now receiving displaced Hoboken residents?

    Hoboken is collecting much-needed supplies (water, pillows, blankets, non-perishable food, fuel, batteries, glow sticks) if you are able to help.
    The police won't allow you to just drive into town unless you are picking someone up or bringing relief supplies.

    The rescue workers are pumping out the still-standing water, but there are still waist-deep spots and the hospital is closed. There is a curfew in effect until 8am tomorrow morning.

    The City of Hoboken has been updating their Twitter feed regularly through the crisis: https://twitter.com/cityofhoboken For emergency info, call 201-239-6644/6646/6647/6648.
    The Twitter hashtag #Hoboken is also a good source of information. Hoboken411.com has a news feed and photos, but http://hoboken.patch.com/ is better for information, imo.

    The citizens have been incredible - those with power and wifi are sharing those resources with those in need, running extension cords outside for people to recharge devices and opening up their networks so people can get on the internet to get assistance and information.

    The students from Stevens Institute are contributing that way as well as helping with the cleanup effort:
    http://www.nj.com/hobokennow/index.s...dents_cle.html
    Stevens is a great resource, they really managed this crisis well.
    Last edited by FigureSpins; 11-01-2012 at 04:02 AM. Reason: Added extra phone numbers

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    Quote Originally Posted by Marge_Simpson View Post
    Since today is Halloween I baked Kitty Litter Cakes to cheer everyone up. They looked totally disgusting.
    Good to hear you are fine, Marge! Want to share the receipe of that cake? There is someone in my family who might try to bake that.

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    Mennen Sports Arena is being used as a storm shelter. They're bringing people there from a lot of places. Son's friend did not evacuate Hoboken. He, now, can't get out of his building, his car is under water and probably totaled, and has no cell power. He lives 40 minutes from his family and friends, all told him to come home. Don't know what he was thinking.

    We still have no power. They're saying it could be another 4 - 6 days! It's cold and batteries for flashlights are going. Couldn't get D batteries for days before the storm. Gas stations with power have no more gas, stations with gas have no power to pump it. People are getting nutty over gas. Yesterday, a line at the one working gas station, was 2 miles long. No one pulled over to the shoulder and that side of the road was completely blocked all day. You would think that, with all of the storm caused street blockages, the cops would have done something. Especially since it is the Main Street through town and one of the few cleared!

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    Gas stations even up here in Orange County, NY have no gas. Last night, there was only one in my town with gas and power, and that one had lines and the State Police watching over things. As far as we can tell, the situation is the same from at least as far northwest as Middletown, NY, down through the entirety of NJ, through the NJ area of PA, and through to the end of Long Island. No idea re: the situation in CT.
    And so, dear Lord, it is with deep sadness that we turn over to you this young woman, whose dream to ride on a giant swan resulted in her death. Maybe it is your way of telling us... to buy American.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cruisin View Post
    Son's friend did not evacuate Hoboken. He, now, can't get out of his building, his car is under water and probably totaled, and has no cell power. He lives 40 minutes from his family and friends, all told him to come home. Don't know what he was thinking.
    He's not alone, lots of people assumed it wouldn't be a big deal. The finger-pointing has turned towards City Hall, with residents complaining that a basement/ground floor evacuation wasn't sufficient. I don't disagree, but really: common sense should reign. Hoboken floods are very common and given what happened in Maryland and AC, he should have hopped on a train or driven his car home on Friday. Given the Stevens Institute shutdown, that's a strong indication to get outta Dodge, given the number of engineers on Faculty/Staff.

    He can get out now - just have him call for evacuation and the National Guard will pick him up and take him to City Hall. From there, he can figure out what to do.
    I think the ferries and trains (not path) are supposed to start running later today, so he can leave and call his parents for a ride. The buses are already running to other parts on limited service.

    Could have been a lot worse: look at Staten Island. 14 dead because they stubbornly ignored evacuation orders. Almost all of the fatalities were in Zone A areas that flood when someone has a water pistol fight. It's a damned shame that egos ruled over common sense.


    Be wary of gas stations in areas that were flooded; make sure to ask if they "stuck the tanks" to check for water. If the floodwaters get into the underground storage tanks, they settle at the bottom, where the pumps bring it to your gas tank. Water + Gas Tank = Bad News (To be honest, this shouldn't happen unless someone opened a cap, but if there's a leak in the top of the tank or one of the valves, it is possible.)

    That might be why stations haven't reopened - if the stick-test comes back purple, that means there's water in the tank and it has to be pumped out *and* the responsible places will have to find out why the water got in. (A leak might mean a tank replacement, which isn't fast or cheap. I've seen chains shut down a station rather than pay for remediation after a leak.) The chains won't allow the stations to sell gas because it makes them liable for any damage done to your car or gas-powered device. Of course, deliveries are difficult if the delivery trucks are flooded out or the delivery drivers can't get to the rack. A lot of the tank farms are along that Hudson County/Union County area and they sustained some damage/shut downs as well.

    I used to wonder why people brought gasoline containers to the stations before storms to fill them up along with their vehicles. After working for a chain's HQ's, I learned that supplies in the ground are iffy after a storm, there are shortages like this, and they need the fuel for generators, chainsaws and as an emergency supply. It's pretty smart. We keep a container in our shed for the lawnmower and fill it up before storms now.

    We're heading up to NY/NJ tomorrow, so I packed some supplies to donate.
    Last edited by FigureSpins; 11-01-2012 at 02:25 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rfisher View Post
    I think the beach fronts along the entire coast should be declared no build zones within one mile of the sea. It would save millions and millions of dollars when the inevitable storms hit that cost us all in terms of insurance premiums and governmental assistance. If returned to the wetlands and barrier islands that existed there before all the construction, inland storm intensity would be reduced.
    I completely agree. Especially in North Carolina, which is hit far more often.
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    Quote Originally Posted by GarrAarghHrumph View Post
    Gas stations even up here in Orange County, NY have no gas. Last night, there was only one in my town with gas and power, and that one had lines and the State Police watching over things. As far as we can tell, the situation is the same from at least as far northwest as Middletown, NY, down through the entirety of NJ, through the NJ area of PA, and through to the end of Long Island. No idea re: the situation in CT.
    I can't swear to this, but I drove through Middletown, NY yesterday running errands, and I passed a couple of gas stations that looked like they had the normal number of customers. So there's a chance Middletown is still okay for getting gas.

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    ^^ absolutely! We were not sure how bad it would be, but prepared anyway. Only thing unprepared for is - no generator. But that's my husband's fault. I said we absolutely should get one after the snow storm last year, ha said no. Two days ago, he was agreeing we should get one now. Last night I got the idiotic - this wont happen again, we don't really need it crap again. This time, I will win the argument!

    Power in the area is spotty. Some areas never lost it. A few areas came back last night. But, we haven't seen any PSE&G workers anywhere near us.

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    Prancer, I'd love your input on the generator. But, I can't figure out how to PM on my phone. I'll contact you when the power is back and I can get on my computer. Thanks!

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    Quote Originally Posted by cruisin View Post
    Last night I got the idiotic - this wont happen again, we don't really need it crap again. This time, I will win the argument!
    That's about the time I'd pull out the credit card and buy it anyway. Silly to not be prepared.
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