If P/B's program is even half as inspired as Jeanette's, it will be wonderful.
The piece is seventy-five minutes long...[l]ong enough for an idea to be developed, but not so long that one starts to measure the number of seats to the exits with desperation if the thing doesn’t work" -- Marina Harss
Some news about Joubert and his rink in Poitiers: http://www.lanouvellerepublique.fr/V...-glace-1503622
* The rink closed for a year and is supposed to re-open partially to competitive skaters mid-September
*Veronique Guyon was let go when the rink closed and found a job in Cognac. There was a dispute about her release but it looks like she should get her old job back.
* Joubert said: "I would rather train in Poitiers than in Paris"
* Joubert is keeping gladiator but he is currently doing changes to the LP
*Maxim Staviski is going to do the SP. Maxim picked a music that Brian liked but has other musics to show him too. He is not necessarily looking for fast rhythms but for something powerful.
*The last quote of the article: "I work very well with Katia (Krier) in Paris but I'd rather train in Poitiers. I could go back to Veronique, but there are still a lot of things to work on in Poitiers. It is a decision to take with the French Fed. What matters is to be serious wherever the location may be."
Re-posting an interview with Joubert (in Russian) and videos from the Denis Ten shows in KAZ thread:
"Randy [Starkman (1960-April 16, 2012)] lived by the same motto as the rest of us. The Olympics isn’t every four years, it’s every single day. He just got it." --Canadian Olympic kayaker Adam van Koeverden
GP assignments for the French skaters as of June 3:
SKATE AMERICA (Oct. 18-20, Detroit, Michigan)
Brian Joubert, Mae Berenice Meite, James/Cipres, Carron/Jones
CUP OF CHINA (Nov. 1-3, Beijing)
Florent Amodio; Popova/Massot; Pechalat/Bourzat, Carron/Jones
NHK TROPHY (Nov. 8-10, Tokyo)
TROPHEE ERIC BOMPARD (Nov. 15-17, Paris)
Florent Amodio, Romain Ponsart, TBA
Lenaelle Gilleron-Gorry (GP debut), Mae Berenice Meite, Yretha Silete
ROSTELECOM CUP (Nov. 22-24, Moscow)
Brian Joubert, Papadakis/Cizeron (GP debut)
As of today (or actually mid-June since it's retroactive), Tiffany Zahorski is both British and French. Bienvenue Tiff !!
"I missed the view and viewed the mist..." ©
News of French skater Christopher Boyadji who is now partnering GBR skater Amani Fancy and for reasons explained in the interview, they aim to compete for Great Britain.
'The one. The only. Daisuke Takahashi ' Chris Howarth, EurosportUK
That is a really cute interview, I am looking forward to seeing them compete! I also remember seeing Amani in Oberstdorf when she was younger, so much energy.
Joubert's music at the Courchevel Gala seems to be Libertango. Another piece Yagudin too used for one of his show programs.
Thanks, Nmsis. I hope Joubert isn't seriously considering a tango SP. It's a departure from his usual, but not in a good way, I think. I haven't watched any of the videos as the quality seems rather poor, but is it possible that the gala just had a tango theme?
ETA: I now see that apparently this will indeed be the SP.
Yagudin skated to some fairly popular pieces of music in his career (e.g. Carmen, Tosca, MITIM, Snowstorm) and since his retirement. It's hardly surprising that other skaters will make similar choices at one point or another; let's just be happy that none have skated to One Banana . If Joubert did nothing but skate to music identified with Yagudin, or even if he mostly did that, I'd understand this sort of comment - but he hasn't.
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There might be many who skated to Libertango, however I can only remember Griazev in men's skating. If Joubert is still working with Denkova/Staviski, maybe they suggested this music to him though as they too had a program set to Libertango a few years ago. It was a show number for D/S.You would think that nobody else in the history of skating had ever skated to Libertango (I had no idea Yagudin had even done a Libertango program, actually).
Joubert using in the past four years four different pieces Yagudin also skated to would make anyone suspicious, I assume. Knowing that Yagudin is Joubert's idol in figure skating.If Joubert did nothing but skate to music identified with Yagudin, or even if he mostly did that, I'd understand this sort of comment - but he hasn't.
I think Verner has had a section from Libertango in a program. It was also DenStavs' OD when they won Worlds, not just a show number.
I would estimate that including galas, Joubert has skated to upwards of 40 different pieces of music in his very long career, possibly more, and I can't even begin to guess how many different programs Yagudin has done. I think a certain degree of overlap is to be expected, especially considering that there are, indeed, some stylistic similarities (although Yags was more inclined to use classical warhorses in competition). Picking music previously used by high-profile skaters happens all the time in skating, and I just don't see why Joubert should be singled out - how is it different from all the ladies who admire Michelle Kwan skating to music that she'd used over the years? BTW, if memory serves, Yagudin has even skated to music that had already been used by JoubertJoubert using in the past four years four different pieces Yagudin also skated to would make anyone suspicious, I assume. Knowing that Yagudin is Joubert's idol in figure skating.
KvdP made a good point about using "Yagudin's music" (something he did several times in his career), noting that "it's called The Man in the Iron Mask, not Yagudin in the Iron Mask". Yags has been retired from competition for more than a decade, I think that's long enough to put his music back into circulation. Except for Winter, and I'd be shocked if anyone uses that, as it is truly a signature program.
As for the costume: the original version of the shirt was gray. The red version was used once and discarded, at Worlds that year Joubert wore something else. He doesn't seem to be very involved in the design process and has skated in borrowed costumes, too.
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Second part is from Concierto Para Quinteto: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DodZQsrttw4
They're both from the violinist Gidon Kremer's album Hommage à Piazzolla.
Lovely music selections!
For Brian, a vast improvement over the Genesis SP of the last two seasons, if for no other reason than the fact that it would present a more mature side of his skating that wouldn't involve hip thrusting on center ice. Going outside his usual electronic/film music could work, and at least on paper I think this is more suitable for him than that Beethoven FS a few years back, though whether it's a successful program will ultimately depend on whether he himself is comfortable with it. I have watched the video, but the quality is so poor that I'll reserve judgment until we can get a clearer look.
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I wasn't a fan of the previous SP, either, so hopefully this will work better - I just hope for his sake that the judges will go along with something non-electronic for him, and that this isn't another Beethoven/Inception situation in which he talks up a new program only to report later that it never really felt right. I think all the skaters who will be retiring post-Sochi should enjoy themselves on the ice in their final season.For Brian, a vast improvement over the Genesis SP of the last two seasons, if for no other reason than the fact that it would present a more mature side of his skating that wouldn't involve hip thrusting on center ice. Going outside his usual electronic/film music could work, and at least on paper I think this is more suitable for him than that Beethoven FS a few years back, though whether it's a successful program will ultimately depend on whether he himself is comfortable with it. I have watched the video, but the quality is so poor that I'll reserve judgment until we can get a clearer look.