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    Oh no! She's the Canadian lady of the moment! She'll make an impact on the international scene! What high expectations!

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    I never paid that much attention to Osmond, but her obscure juniors record to a brilliant Senior debut is comparable to Joannie Rochette :


    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kaetlyn_Osmond

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    Quote Originally Posted by Erin View Post
    I thought the interview with Mike Slipchuk on TSN last night was a good sign. He basically said that they just let her and Ravi do their thing and not get in the way, which is absolutely the right approach in my opinion.
    Agreed. The tough part is that she will likely win nationals and will also be the only lady qualified to go to worlds...in Canada, no less. Automatically thrust in the spotlight so in some ways it's out of Slipchuk's hands. Furthermore, by not letting her spend another year in Juniors it seems that promoting her and pushing her towards repping us in Sochi has become the plan before the summer started. So I'm slightly baffled by what his words meant.

    So the best they can do is shield her from the pressure of qualifying two for Sochi. Let her finalize the programs that make her feel comfortable vs pushing her to score higher or achieve a certain result.

    I had a thought watching her win in Windsor. Joannie would no longer be a lock to win nationals next year if she returns, especially when you imagine what Osmond will be bringing to the table in 15 months. Is Osmond's emergence the deciding factor that will cause Joannie to formalize her retirement?

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    Given that GP Final is in Sochi and Osmond has a great shot at going in 2014, I wonder to what extent SC can find her a slot in another GP, to give her a chance to skate in the Olympic venue in the GP final....?

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    Articles on Osmond's Skate Canada gold:
    http://www.edmontonexaminer.com/2012...t-skate-canada (by Ryan Pyette)
    http://www.thestar.com/sports/figure...omen-s-singles (by Rosie DiManno)
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    If Osmond qualifies to represent Canada in Sochi, the experience will be invaluable for 2018 even though she may not have the chance or be ready to podium in 2014, IMO.
    Prosperity makes friends, adversity tries them. – Publilius Syrus

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    Quote Originally Posted by museksk8r View Post
    Joannie's successor!
    Please. Way more interesting than Joannie could dream of being.

    Quote Originally Posted by Rafter View Post
    Anyway, didn't Osmond have a 5+ points lead after the SP? I'm not seeing the scandal here. Osmond has good basics and her programs are full of transitions and detailed choreography.
    The scandal is their FS PCS being almost equal.

    Osmond certainly does not have good basics. She skates with rounded shoulders and "no neck", her back is a bit stiff and her basic skating is not very good. Her basics aren't terrible but there's plenty of work to be done in those areas.

    I could understand her being marked higher than Suzuki on TR but that's it. Maybe CH as well but that's debatable.

    Quote Originally Posted by Erin View Post
    I almost wonder if not having a second GP event could turn out to be a blessing in disguise. It would be great for her to get out to another competition and get more World ranking points, but without another GP there's no pressure to make the GPF and extra training time at home to work on basic skating and potentially adding difficulty (triple loop in the FP, harder triple-triple in the short).
    Czisny will almost surely withdraw from NHK and ISU is surely gonna pressure JSF to invite Osmond.

    Quote Originally Posted by love_skate2011 View Post
    I never paid that much attention to Osmond, but her obscure juniors record to a brilliant Senior debut is comparable to Joannie Rochette :
    Placing top 10 at a JGP event and top 10 at Junior Worlds is hardly obscure.

    Junior Ladies can have a higher standard of skating than Seniors.

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    At this point, I have a feeling she'd get a spot if one opened...then again, look at how many times Mirai's been passed over.

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    my only thing that I don't like about Osmond's skating is she skates like a hunchback, relies on her back too much like a speed skater
    taht's why she powers through so much jumps

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rock2 View Post
    Agreed. The tough part is that she will likely win nationals and will also be the only lady qualified to go to worlds...in Canada, no less. Automatically thrust in the spotlight so in some ways it's out of Slipchuk's hands. Furthermore, by not letting her spend another year in Juniors it seems that promoting her and pushing her towards repping us in Sochi has become the plan before the summer started. So I'm slightly baffled by what his words meant.

    So the best they can do is shield her from the pressure of qualifying two for Sochi. Let her finalize the programs that make her feel comfortable vs pushing her to score higher or achieve a certain result.

    I had a thought watching her win in Windsor. Joannie would no longer be a lock to win nationals next year if she returns, especially when you imagine what Osmond will be bringing to the table in 15 months. Is Osmond's emergence the deciding factor that will cause Joannie to formalize her retirement?
    It's interesting to read comments saying that SC should be careful with Osmond and not push her too hard, yet several years ago, when Phaneuf unexpectedly won Canadian nationals at a young age, there was great consternation at the decision to *not* send her to Worlds.

    (and no, Rock...I'm not picking on you -- your post just happened to mention the (past) possibility of leaving Osmond in juniors for another year)
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    Debbi Wilkes' post-FS interview with Kaetlyn Osmond: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8VGvyvHGzCY
    (She says she started training with Ravi Walia starting in 2006.)
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    So Sale/Pelletier had been to one worlds before the canadian worlds they won and placed 4th in 2000. But Osmond also I think has the potential to be top 6 or greater. Usually a big problem is that if even if you have the jumps you don have he pcs. Osmond has the pcs immediately and just needs the jumps to be there. That is unusual. Though you had that with Yuna and Mao.
    Last edited by caseyedwards; 10-28-2012 at 04:09 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ziggy View Post



    Czisny will almost surely withdraw from NHK and ISU is surely gonna pressure JSF to invite Osmond.
    Really? Czisny posted on FB only a few days ago that she was going. But yeah she may still technically be iffy.

    I have to think JSF would naturally pick Osmond but SC would also likely step up and cash in a favor with them as well to get the second assignment. Mind you, she's injury prone, so throwing her into a full season with the possibility of two more events if she makes the GPF, followed by nats, 4CC, Worlds, would probably wear her out. I'm sure SC really wouldn't see it as a bad thing if she didn't get another assignment.

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    I don't think there are any spots open, but I hope if there is one that spot goes to Mirai, she is in waiiting que for a while now

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    Quote Originally Posted by caseyedwards View Post
    So Sale/Pelletier had been to one worlds before the canadian worlds they won and placed 4th in 2000. But Osmond also I think has the potential to be top 6 or greater. Usually a big problem is that if even if you have the jumps you don have he pcs. Osmond has the pcs immediately and just needs the jumps to be there. That is unusual. Though you had that with Yuna and Mao.
    I don't think Osmond will receive PCS marks even close to what she received in Skate Canada. I was at what the judges were giving her considering she really was an unknown skater until even just this season when she won Nebelhorn. As for her jumping technique, her flip and lutz have a strange lean the air and I doubt under immense pressure she'll be able to stand up on them (well she didn't stand up on the lutz in Skate Canada anyway).

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    I don't think Osmond will receive PCS marks even close to what she received in Skate Canada.
    That would be an interesting Vbet, which I think you would lose.

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    Quote Originally Posted by smarts1 View Post
    I don't think Osmond will receive PCS marks even close to what she received in Skate Canada. I was at what the judges were giving her considering she really was an unknown skater until even just this season when she won Nebelhorn. As for her jumping technique, her flip and lutz have a strange lean the air and I doubt under immense pressure she'll be able to stand up on them (well she didn't stand up on the lutz in Skate Canada anyway).
    I didn't realize there was a PCS category where the mark is based on how well known the skater is
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    Quote Originally Posted by mag View Post
    I didn't realize there was a PCS category where the mark is based on how well known the skater is
    I agree. Never in the world of figure skating has a skater's marks been bumped up because of that skater's reputation.
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    SC 2012 EXHIBITION - Kaetlyn OSMOND
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HuD7...feature=g-hist
    love it!
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    Congratulations on a great set of performances, Kaetlyn! What a debut! I really enjoyed watching her, and look forward to seeing her skating develop. I love her energy. and congrats to her coach, Ravi Walia, as well. I used to like him when he skated singles, and it is so great to see him doing so well as a coach

    Quote Originally Posted by Marco View Post
    I think Osmond was rightly scored. It was Suzuki that was underscored.
    ITA. and, imo, this isn't the first time Akiko was underscored. I just don't know what she has to do to get the PCS marks (I feel) she deserves. congrats to her on a gorgeous LP, though. I love think it could become a signature piece for her.

    Thanks for the link to the EX, Sugar!

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