The Japanese Skaters May Pull Out Of Cup Of China

[love_skate2011]

The US skaters made it through the JGP in Turkey, I am sure the Japanese skaters will also be treated with the respect they so deserve. It is about Governments not the people.

I hate this but what does Turkiye have to do with this ?

[mikeko]

The US skaters made it through the JGP in Turkey, I am sure the Japanese skaters will also be treated with the respect they so deserve. It is about Governments not the people.

When were American athletes, not limited to figure skaters, treated badly in Turkey? I've also heard that Istanbul is a very beautiful and safe city.

[peibeck]

When were American athletes, not limited to figure skaters, treated badly in Turkey? I've also heard that Istanbul is a very beautiful and safe city.

I think the original poster was referring to Muslim protests in Turkey over that stupid film that is causing protests throughout the Middle East.

[brightphoton]

When the 2011 World Championships were threatened to be canceled, Alissa Czisny wrote lovely open letter imploring that athletes be given a chance to compete. What have we heard from Mao and co? Crickets.

[RumbleFish]

Japanese skaters will avoid CoC from next year, and fewer Japanese fans will travel to see the event. Japanese citizens don't need visa to enter the country, so Japanese fans have been good customers for the Chinese federation. But no more. The federation will have difficulties to attract Japanese sponsors, too.

A typical Japanese-like reaction to all this. They think rest of Asia will all go broke without their money. It's arrogance like this that turns off people, not claims over some deserted island, IMO.

I'm sorry I have turn this into an international diplomacy thread.

[Zemgirl]

When the 2011 World Championships were threatened to be canceled, Alissa Czisny wrote lovely open letter imploring that athletes be given a chance to compete. What have we heard from Mao and co? Crickets.

What does one have to do with the other? Did Czisny wish to compete in Tokyo while Japan was dealing with the aftermath of the earthquake and the tsunami? Would that have been productive? She probably just wanted to be supportive, as many people did; after all, lots of skaters expressed their supports in words and actions.

But what happened there was a natural disaster. What's going on now is a political dispute with potential implications for skaters of specific nationalities. Mao, Dai et al. should stay out of it while the situation and potential safety is assessed.

[Marco]

misskarne, can you please give me a source for "the fact Japanese are being ATTACKED in China"? As in individual Japanese? I haven't heard any reports, or seen any reports either in international or local media of individuals being ATTACKED. I saw several protests first hand, and none of them had anyone attacking any individuals - and Beijing had the largest (and by all reports, most significant and harsh) protests by far.

Japanese tourists were attacked by Chinese in Hong Kong.

[Ziggy]

Dear FSU-sers. Please do not feed the trolls.

Dear Admins. It'd probably be best to either lock this thread before it turns even more ugly or move it into PI.

[Zemgirl]

Dear FSU-sers. Please do not feed the trolls.

Dear Admins. It'd probably be best to either lock this thread before it turns even more ugly or move it into PI.

I know... (hangs head in shame). I figured it was a matter of time before this thread went places it didn't need to. I'd say move it to PI or to the K&C section.

[gingercat]

I hate this but what does Turkiye have to do with this ?

Sorry, no intention to offend. I know that the American team was cautious because of the recent release of the movie and the tension it caused.
It is not the same, however there were similar concerns.

[tut88]

They did not pay attention to the islands until someone reported that there is a huge oil field sleeping under the sea nearby. Sigh...

THat's the real reason !

I think skaters will be safe, anyway.
It would be sad that they will be forced to withdraw from the competition, not only for themselves missing 1 gp to 2, and for someone possilby the final, but also for figure skating fans that will go to see the competition without big names and less skaters.

[NONKO]

Honestly I don’t like to read any discussions about politics on this board.

Politics should not obstruct any sports.
Any athletes should have any opinions and the right not to compete or to participate in any competitions or events in the world by themselves.
And really very hope sports bring peace and happiness to any people in the universe.

[fscric]

Japanese tourists were attacked by Chinese in Hong Kong.

As far as I know, there was only one incident, they (husband and wife) are not tourists as they have been living in Hong Kong for several years, and the person who attacked them was arrested the next day. Are there other incidents that I am not aware of?

[Simone411]

I certainly hope everything will calm down and get straightened out by November. It would be very sad and disappointing if Mao, Miki and Daisuke couldn't compete.

[mikeko]

A typical Japanese-like reaction to all this. They think rest of Asia will all go broke without their money. It's arrogance like this that turns off people, not claims over some deserted island, IMO.

I'm sorry I have turn this into an international diplomacy thread.

Are you saying Japanese skaters and fans do not have the right to fear for their lives? Why do Japanese businesses have to tolerate vandalism and looting? Many of them are looking for a way to exit China because it's too risky. Consulting firms are getting really busy.

The Chinese goverment has started to stop trading goods from and to Japan at ports and airports. Japanese businesses are having a hard time, so are Chinese businesses in Japan.

[LongTimeLurker]

Some diplomat's car was vandalized....

That "some diplomat" was Gary Locke, the US Ambassador to China. He is of Chinese descent.

[mikeko]

A Chinese tennis player is being called a traitor because she decided not to withdraw from a game in Japan.
http://www.wantchinatimes.com/news-s...00068&cid=1101
"Amid the outpouring of nationalistic sentiment China's top-ranked tennis player Li Na has been called a traitor by Chinese internet users for not canceling a trip to Japan for a tennis competition next week."

This blog article is interesting.
http://sinother.blogspot.jp/2012/09/...ial-media.html

I have no idea how this will affect Chinese figure skaters who are scheduled to participate the NHK trophy. They will be safe in Japan, though.

[RumbleFish]

Are you saying Japanese skaters and fans do not have the right to fear for their lives? Why do Japanese businesses have to tolerate vandalism and looting? Many of them are looking for a way to exit China because it's too risky. Consulting firms are getting really busy.

The Chinese goverment has started to stop trading goods from and to Japan at ports and airports. Japanese businesses are having a hard time, so are Chinese businesses in Japan.

You are making it sound as if Japanese businesses are in China to make some sort of donation. The bottom line is they are their to make money, but if they don't feel risking their own safety isn't worth it, they should be free to get out.

If they can't cope with making losses, they should complain to their own politicians who caused all the havoc, not to Chinese people who are reacting to all the provocations.

[mikeko]

You are making it sound as if Japanese businesses are in China to make some sort of donation.

When did I say that? You are reading too much between the lines.

If they can't cope with making losses, they should complain to their own politicians who caused all the havoc, not to Chinese people who are reacting to all the provocations.

Your justification to vandalism and violence is quite amusing. Did you tell French the same when the Chinese attacked the Carrefour stores for the free-Tibet protest in Paris?

[Sylvia]

FYI, there is a China/Japan thread in the Politically Incorrect forum here on FSU.

I didn't know that Toyota was the sponsor of the event

I guess you missed seeing my post #5 on the first page?