iPhone5

[Buzz]

Paper maps

[MR-FAN]

I upgraded my iPhone4 to ios6 and lo-ving it! And the maps app is soooo much better (for me) than the old one. I'm talking about user friendliness mainly, haven't used it enough to figure if there are many mistakes, but it's working very well with the french names of montreal, which is always tricky with maps and gps apps, and the gps feature is VERY good so far

Or maybe I have lower standards than everyone else

[Angelskates]

Surprisingly google maps also works really well for me. I never would have thought it, considering my location! It works well giving directions using walking, driving AND subway. The public transport being accurate really surprises me. Of course, I have on,y experimented. It'll probably not work when I really need it to

[cruisin]

And yes cruisin we know that you have had no problems and that Apple is the saviour of all mankind.

Not the savior of all mankind. Not everyone has seen the light - yet! You should switch to Mac, it might make you more cheerful .

As Google Maps is one of the few apps I actually use frequently, I'm sticking with my decision not to update to the new operating system on iPhone4. I never had any intention of imminently updating the phone itself, as the 4 still works perfectly well.

The Google Maps that came on the 4s did not have audio navigation. So, the new iPhone map app is better for navigation, if you're driving. I did not download the Google app. I got the GPS Drive Motion X app. It is free for the map system and $9.00 a year for audio navigation. It works very well, better than Google Maps on my old Droid. I don't need it now, though.

Paper maps

I love paper maps. Not for navigating, unless there is someone in the car to read it. But, if I am traveling, I like to look at paper maps to plot out where I am going. I had paper maps when I traveled through Italy, the last time. If we didn't we'd have been screwed, since the GPS went crazy in some areas.

[Karina1974]

Paper maps

LOL... come hike the High Peaks area of the Adirondacks in northern NY. You'll find out the advantages of knowing how to read and use paper maps, as well as a compass. The Trek program run by the BSA up there specifically requires proficiency in orienteering.

Unfortunately for the general public, map reading is another skill that is fast being rendered obsolete by digital technology.

[allezfred]

You should switch to Mac, it might make you more cheerful .

I'll switch to Mac when you stop complaining about healthcare.

And pay for my Mac.

[Angelskates]

LOL... come hike the High Peaks area of the Adirondacks in northern NY. You'll find out the advantages of knowing how to read and use paper maps, as well as a compass. The Trek program run by the BSA up there specifically requires proficiency in orienteering.

I have no problems reading a paper map or using a compass, but I still don't ever choose to. They're a pain in the ass to hold for one thing.

[cruisin]

I'll switch to Mac when you stop complaining about healthcare.

And pay for my Mac.

Not likely I'll stop complaining about something that won't work. And is just a half assed attempt. But, I can send you my old Mac .

LOL... come hike the High Peaks area of the Adirondacks in northern NY. You'll find out the advantages of knowing how to read and use paper maps, as well as a compass. The Trek program run by the BSA up there specifically requires proficiency in orienteering.

Unfortunately for the general public, map reading is another skill that is fast being rendered obsolete by digital technology.

I was listening to an NJ radio talk show yesterday. They based one of their topics on: Can you do any of these 4 things:
1. Drive a stick shift.
2. Read a paper map.
3. Change a tire.
4. Parallel Park.

It was initiated by a news story about some 18 year old idiot in Newark, who carjacked a Porsche 911. Unfortunately, he couldn't drive the car because he can't drive a stick shift. He got caught and now faces up to 15 years in jail. One would think that if a person were going to steal a car, they would know how to drive it .

Anyway, callers called in with the things they could and could not do. I was surprised at how many young people have never used a paper map! I can't drive a stick shift (never had one to drive). But, can do the rest.

[MacMadame]

I can do it all. Does that make me old?

[cruisin]

I can do it all. Does that make me old?

Nope, it makes you talented

[Karina1974]

I was listening to an NJ radio talk show yesterday. They based one of their topics on: Can you do any of these 4 things:
1. Drive a stick shift.
2. Read a paper map.
3. Change a tire.
4. Parallel Park.

It was initiated by a news story about some 18 year old idiot in Newark, who carjacked a Porsche 911. Unfortunately, he couldn't drive the car because he can't drive a stick shift. He got caught and now faces up to 15 years in jail. One would think that if a person were going to steal a car, they would know how to drive it .

Anyway, callers called in with the things they could and could not do. I was surprised at how many young people have never used a paper map! I can't drive a stick shift (never had one to drive). But, can do the rest.

I can do all but drive stick. Parallel parking is simple for me because my car's length ends at the rear window.

I'll add another one to that list: park a car by backing it into where you want to put it. Bonus points if it is a single-car driveway (where the garage is in the back of the house), or like I do at home: backing off of the street into a parking lot and and then another 15 feet into my spot. Even better... try ending that maneuver between 2 other cars. Using just your mirrors (I use my sides to make sure I'm centered between the lines). I know backing in to park is an alien concept to most people, because I have had to deal several times with people getting right on my bumper in spite of the fact that I have pulled up past the gate to my lot, stopped, and put my signal on, and there are no oother driveways on that block for me to pull into. You'd think they'd get what I'm going to do next.

[Reuven]

I was listening to an NJ radio talk show yesterday. They based one of their topics on: Can you do any of these 4 things:
1. Drive a stick shift.
2. Read a paper map.
3. Change a tire.
4. Parallel Park..

Yep. All of them. But then, I'm antideluvian.

[made_in_canada]

I can do it all. Does that make me old?

Nope, I'm younger than you and I can do it all Though I'm not American and Americans have issues with stick shifts (or at least that's what I've been led to believe).

[Karina1974]

Nope, I'm younger than you and I can do it all Though I'm not American and Americans have issues with stick shifts (or at least that's what I've been led to believe).

Not all of them. My older brothers are 43 and 45, and both of them know how to drive stick. You won't find too many people in my parents' generation (now in their mid-50's-80's) who didn't have to learn stick because, chances are, that was the only type of car available to them at that time. Those of us in our 30's and younger, though, are a different story.

[cruisin]

My son is 26 and drives a stick. He thinks it makes him cool .

[*Jen*]

They changed the data providers for map info so the new provider must name things differently.

That would be fine, if they were named correctly. But they're not. If I gave someone without local knowledge the name of my suburb and told them to walk there with apple maps, they wouldn't find it. That's a pretty big issue! Especially since, as you said, google maps doesn't really work on apple now. Fail.

I was listening to an NJ radio talk show yesterday. They based one of their topics on: Can you do any of these 4 things:
1. Drive a stick shift.
2. Read a paper map.
3. Change a tire.
4. Parallel Park.

Yes, yes, yes and yes. Aren't they all fairly basic? I'm 27. I don't drive stick because it's cool, I learned it because it's practical since in the wider world, there are lots of them. Fairly sure most cars in Europe are manual, and I even drove one in the US a month ago. Autos are easier, but give you less control.

Paper maps are significantly better and easier than Apple maps to understand

Changing a tire - yep. My father taught me that when my mother taught my brother how to sew a button.

And who can't parallel park? Isn't it in your driving test? if it's not!

Now iphone users, is there a way to easily switch between keyboards without going back to settings? I won a childish sms battle this evening because I could make a joke about a Russian word using Cyrillic text and my friend couldn't. I'm still on my failing android, and he's on an iphone. I'm sure there must be a way that I'm overlooking?

ETA, never mind. It was fairly simple, I worked it out

[cruisin]

Parallel parking is still on the test. However, there is very little opportunity to do that anymore, in some areas. So, people are not very good at it. I never learned to drive a stick, we never had one. And at 59, I am not about to learn on my son's

[HisWeirness]

Parallel parking is not on the driving test in North Carolina.

[cruisin]

Parallel parking is not on the driving test in North Carolina.

I think it still is in NJ, maybe not. I have no idea, anymore.

[MacMadame]

It wasn't on the test in Hawaii in 1983 and it's not on the test in CA right now.