Homeland on Showtime

**pixie cut** · 10-09-2012, 09:41 PM

Originally Posted by Oreo

Eden, thank you for this! I'm definitely going to watch it!!

There are some cool little pieces on Showtime on Demand comparing Homeland to the original Israeli series. These videos may also be on sho.com. The perspective being the Israeli series focuses more on the after effects of war, whereas Homeland is a psychological drama. Haven't seen the original, so I don't know. Just know I love Homeland.

**Zemgirl** · 10-09-2012, 09:58 PM

Originally Posted by pixie cut

There are some cool little pieces on Showtime on Demand comparing Homeland to the original Israeli series. These videos may also be on sho.com. The perspective being the Israeli series focuses more on the after effects of war, whereas Homeland is a psychological drama. Haven't seen the original, so I don't know. Just know I love Homeland.

If anything, I would argue that Hatufim is the psychological drama, while Homeland is more of a psychological thriller. The emphasis in Hatufim (I've seen only parts) is on what the two men who return experienced, how it affected them and what happens as they attempt to return to their "normal" lives. There is no equivalent to Carrie Mathison, while there are characters that don't appear in Homeland.

I think each show is tailored for its market; Hatufim taps into experiences and perspectives that are more typical of Israeli society and culture, and which may be less relatable for an American audience. It would be very difficult to explain to someone unfamiliar with the Israeli context how POWs are viewed and why they are so meaningful to Israelis - and what a released POW would be returning to. Homeland, OTOH, is a very strong adaptation of the original but obviously more focused on issues that would be of interest to people in the US, and it's very much a product of the post-9/11 America.

There are some fantastic actors working on both shows.

**Eden** · 10-10-2012, 04:32 AM

Originally Posted by Zemgirl

There is no equivalent to Carrie Mathison, while there are characters that don't appear in Homeland.

Actually there is:
Gal Zaid plays as Haim Cohen, an IDF psychologist who at the very beginning suspects that the returning soldiers are hiding some information and probably are working for the other side.
He even sends one of his female agents (Sandy Bar) to get friendly (aka spy) with one of them.

Originally Posted by Zemgirl

If anything, I would argue that Hatufim is the psychological drama, while Homeland is more of a psychological thriller.
There are some fantastic actors working on both shows.

ITA!

Originally Posted by Oreo

Eden, thank you for this! I'm definitely going to watch it!!

You're welcome!

I think they're both unique in their own way.

**Zemgirl** · 10-10-2012, 06:27 AM

Originally Posted by Eden

Actually there is:
Gal Zaid plays as Haim Cohen, an IDF psychologist who at the very beginning suspects that the returning soldiers are hiding some information and probably are working for the other side.

That's true - what I meant is that it's a different character and relationship to the men than the one Carrie has.

**walei** · 10-11-2012, 04:23 AM

I read online somewhere that the producer says this season don't really start until episode 3 where

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Crap is about to get real!!

**kittyjake5** · 10-15-2012, 01:08 PM

Quite a show last night! Carrie and Brody both showing how psychologically damaged they really are.

The Roller Coaster ride is about to begin. Love it!

**Oreo** · 10-15-2012, 01:37 PM

Damian Lewis has reportedly signed a contract for five more years of Homeland. That doesn't necessarily mean they'll make the show for another five years, but his character isn't going anywhere anytime soon. I don't know how the producers can keep his character's tension up or the story arc going for that long.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz...-Homeland.html

**pixie cut** · 10-15-2012, 01:58 PM

Originally Posted by kittyjake5

Quite a show last night! Carrie and Brody both showing how psychologically damaged they really are.

The Roller Coaster ride is about to begin. Love it!

When Brody snapped the tailor's neck was unbelievable. So matter of fact. Shows where he's at mentally.

**walei** · 10-16-2012, 01:57 AM

I was a bit meh with the latest episode, found the whole Brody escorting the tailor to the safe house story a bit over the top and unbelievable. But the ending, oh man what a pay off!! I got emotional too when Carrie found out she was right all along. And I'm sure I wasn't the only one cursing at my TV when they showed the airport official took away the memory card from Saul but of course Saul was too awesome to get slighted like that!

So according to the preview

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Love this show!

**Rob** · 10-16-2012, 04:14 PM

Originally Posted by Oreo

Damian Lewis has reportedly signed a contract for five more years of Homeland. That doesn't necessarily mean they'll make the show for another five years, but his character isn't going anywhere anytime soon. I don't know how the producers can keep his character's tension up or the story arc going for that long.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz...-Homeland.html

Well they will need to try to get Nazir somehow so that could take up more than a season. Then they could put Brody on trial --that could take up another season.

**rfisher** · 10-16-2012, 04:35 PM

Or, make Brody a double agent. They have leverage now.

Or maybe he's already a secret double and is not going to be a triple.

**pixie cut** · 10-16-2012, 04:58 PM

Originally Posted by rfisher

Or, make Brody a double agent. They have leverage now.

Or maybe he's already a secret double and is not going to be a triple.

I think the double agent thing is more likely, but with this show you never know. That's why I love it!

**pixie cut** · 10-22-2012, 02:16 PM

Another stunning turn of events. This show keeps the surprises coming.

Loved Carrie's tell off of Brody. So rich!

**kittyjake5** · 10-22-2012, 06:53 PM

Great show again but I really don't get Brody's daughter and the VP son's story line. Where is it leading? For me these two teenager characters are like a filler. I am not interested in watching teenage romance. lol When Carrier's handler told her to get the F back to headquarters after Brody left the bar I knew Carrie was not going to listen to him. She had that gut feeling again and she was not going to let anyone tell her that she was wrong, and she wasn't. Looking forward to the next episode

**walei** · 10-23-2012, 02:51 AM

It was interesting to see Carrie's emotions at the end of the episode after she confronted Brody. I couldn't tell if it was relief, excitement, or guilt for blowing the operation. Maybe it's a mix of all three!! Claire Danes is such a wonderful actress!

**smurfy** · 10-23-2012, 04:21 AM

Originally Posted by kittyjake5

Great show again but I really don't get Brody's daughter and the VP son's story line. Where is it leading? For me these two teenager characters are like a filler. I am not interested in watching teenage romance. lol When Carrier's handler told her to get the F back to headquarters after Brody left the bar I knew Carrie was not going to listen to him. She had that gut feeling again and she was not going to let anyone tell her that she was wrong, and she wasn't. Looking forward to the next episode

So true - but with this show - there is probably a good reason and not just filler (I hope!). Dana will hear something either from her father or the VP and either accidently or not relay it to the other. Dana is pretty observant of her father.

**loulou** · 10-23-2012, 03:27 PM

Originally Posted by Spazactaz

I just finished episode 4 of season 1.... everyone raves about this show but I am struggling to get into it!

It took me a few episodes too to get hooked. It's darker than my usual cup of tea, but it's engaging. Plus, terrorism and security measures are pretty far from my natural take on life, so I don't notice when someone sends a text from a room which should not allow that.

How are they going to work since Claire Danes is now pregnant (and probably showing)?

**loulou** · 10-23-2012, 03:30 PM

Originally Posted by Eden

The US Homeland version of the Israeli Hatufim/POW is a bit different, but has some similarities.
One of those similarities is that Brody is not working for the other side.
Don't want to spoil it for you, but prepare yourself for a huge surprise as far as who is working for who.

So it wasn't her daughter who stopped him from blowing the vest? It was his plan all along? - It sure didn't look like that from the way he sweated to repair the vest switch.

I really would like to have enough restraint and wait to watch all episodes from season two in a row.

**pixie cut** · 10-29-2012, 03:00 PM

Another solid episode although scratching my head by how easily Jessica was given entrance to Brody's hotel room. If you want to say he has the flu, wouldn't the CIA put some safeguards in place?

**oleada** · 10-29-2012, 04:34 PM

I loved the last episode; great twist and I'm excited how things will be moving forward.

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