Also, great points, VarBar! Do you think he should go back to training at altitude? For both his physical conditioning and his confidence?
Hersh is tool masquerading as a sports writer. He needs to preface his "articles" with -- this is just my uniformed opinion because I hate COP and refuse to learn how it is used. Bring back 6.0 because I can only understand simple numbers between 0 and 6.
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Training at altitude undoubtedly has its benefits but it seems that Colorado Springs is behind Patrick now and I don't think he would ever go back to his former training base other than for a few short stays.Also, great points, VarBar! Do you think he should go back to training at altitude? For both his physical conditioning and his confidence?
Not sure we are going to see Chan attempting this challenging three-jump combo in competition because it would most likely not be worth the effort and the risk taken under the IJS but it's interesting though that he went for it while practicing for a show. Maybe he wanted to send the world a message?
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Training at altitude undoubtedly has its benefits but it seems that Colorado Springs is behind Patrick now and I don't think he would ever go back to his former training base other than for a few short stays.
A decision has been made and it's time to move on and focus. I am sure Team Chan has considered all its pros and cons before moving to Detroit. Interesting that he went for it during the SOI practice too. Maybe it was just 'fun'. How many points can one gain if you do a three jump instead of two jump combo,VarBar? Why is it not worth trying it in a competition? (I need some COP education).Not sure we are going to see Chan attempting this challenging three-jump combo in competition because it would most likely not be worth the effort and the risk taken under the IJS but it's interesting though that he went for it while practicing for a show. Maybe he wanted to send the world a message?
clarie, I hope you get to meet other FSU-ers at the show too. Have fun cheering the skaters on. Please post your report and pictures here if any.Originally Posted by clarie
ProfDeb, now that it is confirmed that Patrick, Weaver, Poje and Balde +++ are training in Detroit, you can drop by to cheer them all.
Hope to read some reports about the show tonight.
Looking at Patrick's training decisions, it seems he needs to keep refreshing things to stay motivated so I hope Detroit does that for him. I often wonder though why he doesn't just stay home and train in Canada - one thing Canada has in abundance are high performance coaches for senior men. It would certainly save his family some money which was a factor a few years ago - and just perhaps the real reason that Patrick went with one coach and to Buttle for choreography. But that's JMO.
I remember reading somewhere ... that he ended up in Colorado Springs to train with Krall for his quads. It seemed that the atmosphere then was conducive too as he had his skater friends and the high altitude was a plus. Oh yes, I read that Toronto has too much distractions. I GUESS now that he is no longer with Krall and I understand most of the skater friends he trained with have retired or moved, there's less motivation to stay on. OK.. I am just guessing and saying based on what I have read. Guys, correct me if I am wrong.Originally Posted by blueglass
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As far as I know, the base value of a jump combination is the sum total of the base values of the jumps that combination contains, in other words whether a skater attempts a 4T/3T/3Loop or a 4T/3T and a 3Loop as a solo jump later in the program, the total base value of these three jumps is exactly the same, that is 19.5 points: 4T base value = 10.3; 3T base value = 4.1; 3Loop base value = 5.1. But the likelihood for a skater to land the third jump in a three jump cleanly and get good GOEs isn't as high as the likelihood for him to land the second jump in a two jump cleanly. Furthermore, a three jump like the one Patrick did would reduce the number of triple jumps the skater could do in the second half of the program for the 10% bonus. Maybe the skater would be better rewarded on skating skills and performance/execution if he attempted a three jump instead of a two jump but Patrick is not one of those skaters who should be concerned about their PC scores - unless he makes serious mistakes.How many points can one gain if you do a three jump instead of two jump combo,VarBar?
^^^ Thank you VarBar. Makes sense. Now would a 4quad salchow makes any difference? Not sure why he has been practising 4QS but not bringing it to competition. Perhaps, it's just not consistent yet?
I don't think he has it, though. I think he'd more likely get a 4F than a 4S to be honest.
Is there anyone in Patrick's life - ANYONE - who can give him some advice about being more careful what he says to the media - especially vultures like Rosie Dimanno who have no class?
I don't think Patrick has said anything so terrible - if you actually listen to him give an interview as opposed to what the print media writes, he is the polar opposite of cocky and arrogant. He is a very likeable, humble guy who is also very conscious of his abilities and talent - and when did that become such a crime in a high performance athlete? He's criticised and vilified for winning events when he falls. But why should he have to sit back and take it when everybody and their dog is trashing him? The judging system is not his fault, but the vitriol keeps coming. He's allowed to stand up for himself.
I also wonder if the journalists know Patrick would give these kind of sound bites so they constantly go after him for quotes. I'm doubtful that one day Patrick just woke up and said let's go call Rosie DiManno about the idea of Skater's Union.