W/P-SP was lovely, FD I see potential, I liked it.
C/L- It's alright I guess, nothing special or different
P/B- I like them, I like the Rolling Stones, so I should like this...
well I don't. Like a few others I couldn't get through it
either. 'The Mummy' kinda grew on me and it is early in
the season but I just don't see it happening. I feel like
this is so 'beneath' them. Now that I'm writing about it I
feel depressed just thinking about it I actually think I hate
it and that makes me
ETA: Sequins I agree about P/B's FD, I actually thought I would like it, but it was the b-word for me.
Last edited by Shayii; 10-09-2012 at 12:14 AM.
I usually don't like P&B's FD's, especially at the start of the season. I usually find their SD's (and OD's) stronger conceptually. But they usually convince me based on content and skating skills by the time Worlds come around. I still find this years FD theme one dimensional and a disappointment but even though I feel the artistic side is a let down I think the athletes will give a strong fight.
I am not too concerned about interviews (DW). They cant very well say that their program is generic or whatever. It has to be the biggest and the bestest. Meryl is the epitome of a ballet dancer etc etc. Its called tooting your own horn to create an aura.
The proof will be in the pudding and how it progresses during the season.
Tights are illegal anyway.
But the example of I&K would remind anyone of why trying to make a true ballet program (as opposed to one done to music from a ballet) has its pitfalls. If you recall at the time, their coach went on about how only I&K could skate a true ballet program. And then we all got to watch it.
Pitfall one: the guy can't dress in tights. Now the program is a guy who can be taken for a guy off the street, dancing with a ballerina, as in who's Joe Schmoe up there with Maria Tallchief?
Second pitfall. Illinykh wore a tutu of sorts, and many said, "Aha, that's a coverup for the fact that they skate so far apart you could drive a golfcart between them. With the tutu in the way, they can't be faulted for skating far apart and doing a very open program with no transitions to speak of." One of Tessa & Scott's strong points is that they skate very close together. Another is that they do great transitions. Why would they give those advantages away by having Tessa wear a tutu?
Okay, the guy is not in tights, the girl is not in a tutu, They skate a program to ballet music. Which is fine, and they would do a great job, but now it is not a ballet program. It's a program to ballet music, which is fine.
If I were in a team that wanted to do ballet on ice, I'd do it in a Canadian TV special, with Scott in tights, and Tessa in an outfit correct to the ballet they were putting on ice, and it would be a great show.
So no, I do not think they should do a ballet program for a competitive program. And I think they would do a great blues; the swooping, held notes of a slow blues would let them show their deep edges, & closeness of skating.
Furthermore, I think the point of their hockey skater/ballerina exhibition number was that Scott is not crazy about ballet on ice, even though Tessa is...which would be a problem for any coach/choreographer. You don't want the guy to be a reluctant participant in a program. But that is just conjecture on my part.
Last edited by DORISPULASKI; 10-09-2012 at 10:17 AM.
Like Doris said, I have always wanted them to do a blues number which would indeed show off their many strengths.........maybe next year
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Yes, V-M never need to do ballet dance, because Meryl is truth balerina. And V-M need to sakte something (slow blues) wich help D-W become OGM in Sochi.
Doris, with all your "love" to V-M i dont think i will pay attention to your opinion about what they need to wear or what music they need to use.
pani, I don't think Charlie will wear tights, and I don't expect D&W's Giselle polka will be particularly balletic, either. I was not the one who went on about Meryl's ballet training, after all. For one thing, I'm not a balletomane in any case.
For another thing, there are several places in the YP where you are supposed to point your heel rather than your toe, which isn't balletic in any way at all.
I don't expect anyone to take my opinion about anything, either, for that matter-either about D&W, I&K or V&M or the price of pork chops.
I just think ballet on ice is pretty whack for any team, especially for a competitive program, and I&K's program showed the difficulties perfectly. YMMV.
Also, I think the argument could be made that if U/Z had done the blues program they used in 93 for 94 instead, they would've/could've won the OGM in 94.
I understand that the rules are different now. That said, the Blues genre itself is both vast and deep, with a myriad of different styles within. Plus, there are other styles of music that pair well with the blues. They do a section of their FD as a slow, sultry blues... No big deal.
And, yes, I remember you saying before that you're not a big blues fan. It's likely we won't agree on this.
ETA: I think Doris makes some excellent points about the difficulties of doing a straight-up translation of ballet into ice dance. On paper, it sounds like a really good idea, especially when you think about Tessa's extensive background in ballet. In reality though, as evidenced by I/K's program in the 10/11 season, it's hard to do in practice.
And when i watched juniors SDs this season i notice, that i hate when teams need use blues with some more "happy" music
Because I-K couldnt at that point show this FD in good way I am sure T-S could show realy great Don Qiote FD, but we will never see thisI/K's program in the 10/11 season, it's hard to do in practice.
If someone could do this- its V-M for sure. But D-W will skate ballet, yes.
And i read all, what Doris post about V-M at GS, so i know what she is thinking about them.
I think a V/M blues would win. You also have to admit that a V/M blues would be unlike (and way better) than what the junior teams are doing this year. Plus, plenty of music that's not happy that would pair with the blues.