Virtue ~ Moir n. 20. L’amour est un oiseau rebelle

[Cherub721]

Did you need single skaters list?

We would be here forever.

I think I have R&K's ex and W&L's OD on my computer... I will upload later and someone can youtube them if they want.

[pani]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-eClwepAWPM

sneak pic from HPC

Thanks! All look so great! Piper and Paul

[iggie]

1977 Moiseeva-Minenkov
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qi7i-DafWsM
1985 - Bestemianova & Bukin (you have this link)
1990 - Volozhinskaya & Svinin (ex) TAT made choreo
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ppVJMel4u8A
Krilova-Ovsiynnikov FD 1998 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MSyT-dL4Ndg
Lang & Tchernyshev 2002 OD
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pRiT36l0LVQ
Winkler-Lose OD 2002, but couldnt find on youtube.
Sofia SFORZA / Francesco FIORETTI last season
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=co_91tZxkVQ

Did you need single skaters list?

thanks!

i just need ice dance.

[pani]

thanks!

i just need ice dance.

Iggie, Kylova/Ovsiannakov skated Carmen in 1998

[frisette70]

1977 Moiseeva-Minenkov
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qi7i-DafWsM
1985 - Bestemianova & Bukin (you have this link)
1990 - Volozhinskaya & Svinin (ex) TAT made choreo
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ppVJMel4u8A
Krilova-Ovsiynnikov FD 1998 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MSyT-dL4Ndg
Lang & Tchernyshev 2002 OD
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pRiT36l0LVQ
Winkler-Lose OD 2002, but couldnt find on youtube.
Sofia SFORZA / Francesco FIORETTI last season
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=co_91tZxkVQ

Did you need single skaters list?

oups..

[Cherub721]

I think I have R&K's ex and W&L's OD on my computer... I will upload later and someone can youtube them if they want.

Here they are:
W&L http://www.mediafire.com/?hg525hzitt75br4
R&K http://www.mediafire.com/?d4bd64yao6j554z

R&K is a MUST WATCH if you're looking for voids and something modern. I personally think it's godawful, but YMMV

Also, iggie, here are some higher quality youtube links to vids you already have, in case you want to update them

K&O 98 Oly FD http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cphQkdw4fmw

L&T 02 OD http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z1TtUuN0azE

Humphreys & Baranov 02 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qFx23...eature=related

[pani]

Here they are:
W&L http://www.mediafire.com/?hg525hzitt75br4
R&K http://www.mediafire.com/?d4bd64yao6j554z

R&K is a MUST WATCH if you're looking for voids and something modern. I personally think it's godawful, but YMMV

Thanks! Never saw R-K Carmen. Very interesting choreo and movement.

[Cherub721]

Thanks! Never saw R-K Carmen. Very interesting choreo and movement.

Can you imagine Tessa in that.

[pani]

Can you imagine Tessa in that.

Hm.... Not sure. I mean this dance show a lot off "broken lines". I think even in modern choreo V-M need to save there beautifull lines.
But maybe they still most unusuall Carmen, no?
K-O had a lot off modern moves in there dance, but had classical interpretation. I think this was a little mistake.

[martyross]

Godawful is the exact term...but there is something interesting here and there, if you can forget all the (massive) cripiness for a moment.

[bmcg]

Hm.... Not sure. I mean this dance show a lot off "broken lines". I think even in modern choreo V-M need to save there beautifull lines.
But maybe they still most unusuall Carmen, no?
K-O had a lot off modern moves in there dance, but had classical interpretation. I think this was a little mistake.

I watched this the other day and am convinced it's the inspiration for K&O's Carmen.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a-AQ6HzBkmI

[pani]

I watched this the other day and am convinced it's the inspiration for K&O's Carmen.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a-AQ6HzBkmI

Very interesting. Maybe you are right. cant stop watching this - such unusuall movement.
But in second part i see something from R-K Carmen

[bmcg]

Very interesting. Maybe you are right. cant stop watching this - such unusuall movement.
But in second part i see something from R-K Carmen

I haven't see the R&K version but the ballet I linked to is choreographed by Mats Ek (Swedish choreographer) in 1992 so wouldn't be surprised that R&K might have used that as well. When did they do their program?

[martyross]

I watched this the other day and am convinced it's the inspiration for K&O's Carmen.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a-AQ6HzBkmI

wow. breathtaking. this really captures the essence of Carmen! eros and thanatos! i hope they'll wear similar costumes and use the same track.
bmcg, are you a ballet expert, by chance?

[pani]

I haven't see the R&K version but the ballet I linked to is choreographed by Mats Ek (Swedish choreographer) in 1992 so wouldn't be surprised that R&K might have used that as well. When did they do their program?

In 1997

[bmcg]

wow. breathtaking. this really captures the essence of Carmen! eros and thanatos! i hope they'll wear similar costumes and use the same track.
bmcg, are you a ballet expert, by chance?

Not at all. Just stumbled across it while looking at videos on youtube. When I saw this I thought it had to be the inspiration for K&O´s program. So many similarities between the two.

In 1997

So was it a professional program? I think they retired from amateur competition by then right?

[Cherub721]

I posted a link to R&K above, here it is again: http://www.mediafire.com/?d4bd64yao6j554z It's an "FD" from a professional comp.

Hm.... Not sure. I mean this dance show a lot off "broken lines". I think even in modern choreo V-M need to save there beautifull lines.
But maybe they still most unusuall Carmen, no?
K-O had a lot off modern moves in there dance, but had classical interpretation. I think this was a little mistake.

One thing I will give credit to R&K for is they used a very classical orchestration and it's very difficult to do that when portraying such a different style of movement.

I agree about the lines but I was thinking more along the lines of Tessa being so OTT dramatic.

[martyross]

maybe who knows, the program is so modern that it ends with Tessa putting on mascara and Scott stabbing Cinquanta

[pani]

maybe who knows, the program is so modern that it ends with Tessa putting on mascara and Scott stabbing Cinquanta

[iggie]

Iggie, Kylova/Ovsiannakov skated Carmen in 1998

fixed