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    Quote Originally Posted by Evilynn View Post
    I've moved on to Jeanette Winterson's Oranges Are Not the Only Fruit (finally ) and I'm reading Towers of Midnight on the subway, because Oranges is a borrowed book.
    That's a really good read. I own the book AND the play (because I am weird and love to read plays. )

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    Finally finished My sister, my love, the biggest collection of clichés in a JCO novel. It's as if she was afraid to leave at least one out.

    On to A First Rate Madness by Nassir Ghaemi. The subtitle is: Uncovering links between leadership and mental illness.
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    Quote Originally Posted by IceAlisa View Post
    On to A First Rate Madness by Nassir Ghaemi. The subtitle is: Uncovering links between leadership and mental illness.
    I have a co-worker who really like that one. She got lots of people to read it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Spinner View Post
    I have a co-worker who really like that one. She got lots of people to read it.
    I like it so far. I've heard the theory back when I was an undergrad in psychology. My neuroscientist friend says that the theory of positive biases that "sane" people maintain is still going strong today.
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    Quote Originally Posted by IceAlisa View Post
    Finally finished My sister, my love, the biggest collection of clichés in a JCO novel. It's as if she was afraid to leave at least one out.
    Were there any additional ones between the previous update and the end of the book?

    I think, based on what you've described here, that either JCO should have further distinguished her book from the JonBenet Ramsey case, or just written a non-fiction work about it, if it so interested her.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zemgirl View Post
    Were there any additional ones between the previous update and the end of the book?
    Lets see. There was a girl whose prominent athlete father was accused of murdering his wife, the wife's boyfriend and a pair of poodles (Yin--white and Yang--black, which really should be the other way around). The poodles' final expression was described as "Master, no!"

    There was a ex-con who was drunk-driving and got into an accident which killed his young wife and young son and who after doing time became a priest and started helping lost souls like himself and Skyler. In an interview JCO said she doesn't consider the book to be satire.

    Additional references to peekaboo lace panties, more than I care to remember. I really started to worry about her own mental health at some point. Sanctimonious mentions of "tabloid hell." I am so done with that book.

    I recalled a few more: everyone in the affluent suburb drives a huge gas guzzler SUV. Also, the more affluent, the more aloof.

    Despite expensive and exlusive schooling, almost everyone's (save for a few obligatory miserable and ostrasized geniuses) grammar and reasoning skills are poor. The murderous mummy writes her confession on scented, peach-colored stationary without using syntax and dadday speaks in malapropisms and mispronounces foreign expressions. Mummy ends up cashing in on the murder of her daughter by setting up a company Heaven Scent, hawking beauty products, books and CDs. The crown jewel of the Heaven Scent collection is a Bliss doll, complete with skating outfits, skates and you guessed it, pekaboo panties. She (mummy) also goes on TV a lot up until her death from liposuction that her PR team spins as ovarian cancer.
    Quote Originally Posted by Zemgirl View Post
    I think, based on what you've described here, that either JCO should have further distinguished her book from the JonBenet Ramsey case, or just written a non-fiction work about it, if it so interested her.
    I believe she did write an article on JonBenet which in turn gave her the unfortunate idea to write this book. But I agree with you.
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    I read Gregory's "The Kingmaker's Daughter" over the weekend and found it disappointing. The first-person present-tense style is my least favorite format, especially when there's no explanation for it. I kep wondering who Anne was telling her story to, and how she was recording it, especially over the span of twenty years. Was I supposed to be reading her mind? It was jarring, at best. I don't really feel as if I came to know the characters very well either. It was also hard to keep all the Elizabeths, Richards and Edwards straight. Even though I got it on sale, I feel short-changed.

    Shifting Continents and Eras, I'm now reading "Rhett Buttler's People" by Donald McCaig. It's supposed to be "authorized" whatever that means, and has started out pretty dramatically, 12 years before the Civil War begins, with Rhett riding to a duel over a neighbor's "sullied" daughter, and then goes back further to Rhett's youth. Some of the prose is a little choppy and there are a lot of characters introduced quickly but I'm liking it enough to contemplate hauling the big hardback around with me. I also have Alexandra Ripley's "Scarlett" in the bargain bag.
    I'd rather be thought of as absolutely ridiculous than as absolutely boring.

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    I did not like Rhett Butler's People at all. I found it quite tedious.
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    I recently read The Carpetbaggers by Harold Robbins - skandalous in 1961, tamer than a typical Monday night sitcom today. I hadn't read a Robbins since I was a teenager, and really enjoyed this book.

    So, I thought I'd continue the genre and reread Scruples by Judith Krantz, circa 1978. I read it perhaps 30 years, and remember there was a mini series back when there was always a mini series, and it was a must-read book that every girl and woman I knew read. So far, meh. I love all the Jackie Collins-style glitz, glamour, sex and general trashiness, but this is missing the mark. The characters are unlikeable, and the sexual content is unfortunately more crass than sexy (do we really need to have women using the C word to prove their sexual modernness? Maybe in the 70s, but now I think it just makes the characters a bit sad.).

    I shall continue to see if it gets better, but otherwise I'm moving on to the latest Peter Mayle, The Marseille Caper. Love his novels and non-fiction - well written, fun and sexy, great settings, enjoyable characters. A few years ago I spent a cold winter reading 4-5 of his books in a row.

    Also have The Ex-Pats by Chris Pavone (anyone read this?), and Grisham's The Litigators, which I may save as a beach read in Feb. I also have the latest William Boyd - have read many of his books in the past, but need to be in a more literary mood than post-Robbins and the latest from Giles Blunt, Until the Night. The latter is an excellent Canadian author, featuring a police detective in northern Ontario. For his books, it must be dead of winter as they are more fun to read curled up with a cup of tea and snow falling outside.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jenny View Post
    Also have The Ex-Pats by Chris Pavone (anyone read this?)
    I read it last month. It was a fun, entertaining book but nothing deep by any means.
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    Quote Originally Posted by flyingsit View Post
    I read it last month. It was a fun, entertaining book but nothing deep by any means.
    As you can see by my other choices, I'm not always looking for deep

    I like thrillers, and this one caught my eye as I find the idea of people living in other places and cultures interesting.

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    Chapters/Indigo in Canada has their new mini Kobo for $49 today as one of their big Cyber Monday deals. I was sorely tempted ... but I have faith that I will eventually get my new Windows phone to work as an e-reader the way I want it to!

    I was pleased, though, to get Diana Krall's new CD for $7.

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    I finished Jonathan Tropper's new book, One Last Thing Before I Go. It took a while to get going, but once it did I thoroughly enjoyed it. It didn't have as much LOL humour as This Is Where I Leave You, but the humour it did have was more real. As were the characters (I found that some of the characters in This ... Leave You were quirky for their comedic value alone). And One Last Thing has much more of an emotional centre. So. Big thumbs up from me.

    I'm now about 1/4 way through The Woman Who Went to Bed for a Year by Sue Townsend. It's the first non-Adrian Mole book of hers I've read, though I've been meaning to read The Queen and I. I'm not sure what I think yet. I like the premise, and the general style, but I'm having a hard time connecting to any of the characters so far. We'll see.

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    OpenRoad Media is having an 80% off ebooks sale for cyber Monday! http://www.openroadmedia.com/cybermo...terary-fiction

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    Have been reading Frist-rate Madness and while I buy the argument, I wish he'd spend more time fleshing out exactly how mental disease affected the leaders' decision-making. I feel the chapters are short and skimpy on details but still think the argument has validitiy. The positive bias of non-depressed subjects has been verified and replicated lots of times in many settings.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Artemis@BC View Post
    Chapters/Indigo in Canada has their new mini Kobo for $49 today as one of their big Cyber Monday deals. I was sorely tempted ...
    So tempting, I know!

    I think I'm going to splurge on the Kobo Glo, though. Has anyone had experience with those? I need one that's compatible with my library system, so that limits my options (no Kindle, for example). I also prefer e-ink, but love the idea of being able to read at night with the lights out. Advice?

    Also. Urgent advice needed. Someone mentioned Susan Elizabeth Phillips as a good romance writer with protagonists who are active rather than passive. So anyway. I'm almost done all of her books now. (I'm glad I gave her a second chance after Ain't She Sweet, which was unfortunately the first book of hers I picked up. There's just no getting past a false accusation of sexual assault. Then, I went on to love almost all of the rest.) The point: does anyone have other recommendations for authors of contemporary romance who are in a similar vein? I'm also a huge fan of Jayne Ann Krentz, even though her characters are beginning to morph into the one feisty red-headed heroine. Help!

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    Quote Originally Posted by TygerLily View Post
    I think I'm going to splurge on the Kobo Glo, though. Has anyone had experience with those? I need one that's compatible with my library system, so that limits my options (no Kindle, for example). I also prefer e-ink, but love the idea of being able to read at night with the lights out. Advice?
    Your library doesn't have Kindle loans? I thought they all did now.

    I think the Nook Simple Touch with GlowLight is the highest rated of the e-ink readers with lights.

    Quote Originally Posted by TygerLily View Post
    Also. Urgent advice needed. Someone mentioned Susan Elizabeth Phillips as a good romance writer with protagonists who are active rather than passive. So anyway. I'm almost done all of her books now. (I'm glad I gave her a second chance after Ain't She Sweet, which was unfortunately the first book of hers I picked up. There's just no getting past a false accusation of sexual assault. Then, I went on to love almost all of the rest.) The point: does anyone have other recommendations for authors of contemporary romance who are in a similar vein? I'm also a huge fan of Jayne Ann Krentz, even though her characters are beginning to morph into the one feisty red-headed heroine. Help!
    Kristin Higgins, maybe? I don't know that her heroines are feisty, exactly, and they are also all morphing into one somewhat confused, warmhearted, over-generous woman who gives people food all the time, but I think there are some similiarities in style.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TygerLily View Post

    Also. Urgent advice needed. Someone mentioned Susan Elizabeth Phillips as a good romance writer with protagonists who are active rather than passive. So anyway. I'm almost done all of her books now. (I'm glad I gave her a second chance after Ain't She Sweet, which was unfortunately the first book of hers I picked up. There's just no getting past a false accusation of sexual assault. Then, I went on to love almost all of the rest.) The point: does anyone have other recommendations for authors of contemporary romance who are in a similar vein? I'm also a huge fan of Jayne Ann Krentz, even though her characters are beginning to morph into the one feisty red-headed heroine. Help!
    Julie James? or Louisa Edwards? Maybe Shannon Stacey? I don't know that any of them are all that similar to SEP, but all three have contemporary series with extremely interesting and individual characters. Julie James' books are mostly set in the Chicago area and are Lawyers; Louisa Edwards writes about chefs in New York City (with pretty awesome food porn), Shannon Stacey's books are in New England and her characters are generally blue collar / small business owners.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Prancer View Post
    Your library doesn't have Kindle loans? I thought they all did now.
    Not outside the USA; I think Tygerlily is in Canada.

    I think Kobo is the only option for canucks who want a lighted eink reader, until Sony comes out with a model. I believe the Kindle Paperwhite is not sold in stores here, and Barnes & Noble does not sell to non-American credit cards and addresses.

    I don't need another ereader, but I'm coveting the Kobo Glo. I read in bed so it seems like the perfect upgrade.

    Ditto the Julie James recommendation for fun banter and lawyer characters. Her first two books are less racy than her current series, if that matters to you. Of her first two books, I preferred Practice Makes Perfect.

    Maybe Simply Irresistible by Jill Shalvis? (It's the first book in the Lucky Harbor series; first three are a trilogy with sisters, second trilogy with friends as the heroines, more books forthcoming).

    I'm not sure what it is about Kristan Higgins books, but they don't even feel like romances to me. In the ones I've read (not her whole backlist, maybe four or five), the heroines seem to never actually get with the hero until the end of the book, and they're usually dating someone else (not the hero) in the meantime. I dunno, her stuff to me feels like... chick fic? Meatier than chick lit, not really women's fiction either, and not really straight romance. I think she writes families well. Her books have pretty consistently made me cry. Which is both and
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