2012 Fall TV Season - new and returning show

[AliasJohnDoe]

TV Ratings for Sunday 11/04/2012:
http://tvbythenumbers.zap2it.com/201...ew-low/156155/

[Buzz]

There is a spy series from FX called The Americans and based during the Cold War. I plan on watching if I can because I love Cold War spy thrillers.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/0...n_1760732.html

[AliasJohnDoe]

TV Ratings for Monday 11/05/2012:
http://tvbythenumbers.zap2it.com/201...rs-dip/156349/

[BigB08822]

I am surprised that Once Upon a Time is getting more viewers than Revenge. I have almost given up on Once Upon a Time. I realize that the story is never going to end as long as the show is running. The Queen will always be there, Rumple will always be causing trouble, etc. Yeah, you meet new characters but for me the fun is over. The 1st season was great but I guess a repeat with a slightly different story line doesn't appeal to me for season 2. I am still recording it but when I watch them I hardly pay attention. Revenge, however, still sucks me in and the plot is changing so much as the story progresses. Much more interesting and fast paced. I guess I just feel that Revenge has so many layers and so much more potential to keep it interesting.

[manhn]

Once Upon a Time has always had more viewers, so not a surprise. It's also more family oriented and appeals to more demographics.

I enjoy Revenge more, but I have to say that OUaT has been fantastic this season. Last season, there was a noticeable dip in quality in the middle of the season, as if the writers did not know what direction they wanted. The introduction of new characters this season has been a lot better too--no real snoozers like Cinderella or the Genie or Grumpy from last season.

[Artemis@BC]

I am surprised that Once Upon a Time is getting more viewers than Revenge. I have almost given up on Once Upon a Time. I realize that the story is never going to end as long as the show is running. The Queen will always be there, Rumple will always be causing trouble, etc. Yeah, you meet new characters but for me the fun is over. The 1st season was great but I guess a repeat with a slightly different story line doesn't appeal to me for season 2. I am still recording it but when I watch them I hardly pay attention. Revenge, however, still sucks me in and the plot is changing so much as the story progresses. Much more interesting and fast paced. I guess I just feel that Revenge has so many layers and so much more potential to keep it interesting.

I'm having pretty much the opposite reaction. Revenge has become essentially a soap, IMO. I'm finding the "layers" contrived, too heavily reliant on conspiracies and other elements of a world that only seems to exist in TV land. And the characters' motives are completely unrelatable. I am still watching, and still enjoying ... but it's very much a guilty pleasure for me.

Once Upon a Time, oth, continues to entertain on a much deeper level for me. To be fair, because it's a fantasy they don't have to play by the same rules of believability as Revenge -- but even within that context I find it more "realistic." And certainly more relatable, as it addresses more universal themes. And, with only a couple of exceptions, the level of acting is far superior to that on Revenge.

Obviously neither show is as "fresh" as it was in the 1st season, but that's a given -- nothing can stay consistently fresh over 30+ episodes.

[HeatherC]

Once Upon a Time has become my absolute favorite show this year and while I still love Revenge, it hasn't grabbed me as much as OUAT has this season. Things are still similar to last season on Once but they've added some layers to it and I feel like the writers & producers know exactly where they want the story to go this year. Revenge is starting to feel disjointed and like they're still trying to figure out what stories they want to tell. I still enjoy it but I feel like I'm waiting for something to happen all the time and the filler crap is not entertaining me at all. The last few episodes were better overall but dangit Emanda, you need to do something big soon!

That all being said, I am VERY happy to see both Once and Revenge doing well on Sunday nights (Once especially is doing REALLY well which thrills me) and I think that's one of ABC's strongest nights of programming this year. I may have to start recording Revenge though because I'm sometimes not quite over what happened on OUAT by the time Revenge starts and it's really hard for me to focus, LOL

[AliasJohnDoe]

TV Ratings for Tuesday 11/06/2012: Election night ratings.
http://tvbythenumbers.zap2it.com/201...-night/156493/

[Buzz]

I actually followed it on CNN.

[AliasJohnDoe]

I actually followed it on CNN.

Me too!!! They have great election coverage.

But I had to flip the channel to FOX NEWS "now and then" just for the pleasure of hearing them whine, bitch and dole out excuses. It was very satisfying and entertaining.

[AliasJohnDoe]

Cable Ratings for Tuesday 11/06/2012: CNN, FOX NEWS and MSNBC election night ratings.
http://tvbythenumbers.zap2it.com/201...e-more/156490/

Cable News Ratings for election night:
http://tvbythenumbers.zap2it.com/201...ytheNumbers%29

[Buzz]

Fox seems to have done embarrassingly well.

[emason]

Fox seems to have done embarrassingly well.

The Sandra Lee of news networks.

[Jenny]

Nashville was awesome again! I really like the complexity of the characters - in the first ep, there seemed to be clear good guys and bad guys, but with each week, we see more and more of what each person is really all about. Love love love!

[emason]

Me, too. My absolute favorite show at the moment. To me it really highlights just how not so good and how hokey (for me, at least) Revenge actually is. I hope Nashville stays around for quite some time.

[Buzz]

Do anyone know when or if Bomb Girls will be back?

[Jenny]

Me, too. My absolute favorite show at the moment. To me it really highlights just how not so good and how hokey (for me, at least) Revenge actually is. I hope Nashville stays around for quite some time.

I'm still enjoying Revenge, but you're right, for a good character story, Nashville leaves it in the dust. And unfortunately, that leaves us with all the annoying plot points on Revenge that I was otherwise putting up with because I was enjoying the characters and overall story.

Revenge needs to do some work on its main characters to strengthen them - with all this initiative crap, there's a danger that it's just one big "shocker" after another until it becomes more and more ridiculous. And the soppy Gullible Brothers storylines are not the answer.

[emason]

I wish I could enjoy Revenge again, but something isn't working for me. Season 1 didn't flow seamlessly into Season 2 for me; somewhere there was gear shift and I feel it went off the rails. Agree that Gullible Brothers are not helping matters at all.

[Jenny]

There was a shift for sure - suddenly we have a big focus on Emily's mother, characters like Aiden and Padma are completely new and we're spending time in Nolcorp for the first time, the initiative is back in a big way and yet strangely absent are the feds who were trying to bring Conrad down, Daniel is almost a different character and his relationship with Ashley has come out of nowhere, and Declan acting completely out of character has introduced a new character and SL no one cares about.

[nlyoung]

But I had to flip the channel to FOX NEWS "now and then" just for the pleasure of hearing them whine, bitch and dole out excuses. It was very satisfying and entertaining.

My husband and I did the same thing The amusement factor was very high...