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    I didn't catch it myself at the time, but someone else suggested that the book The Mysterious Island was another Lost shoutout.
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    Oh, Ajira! I was waiting for "Oceanic", I totally forgot that Ajira ever existed!

    And now I remember her. She played "Sage" (or is Saje?) on The Vampire Diaries. She has a very distinctive chin.

    And while I reading IMDB, I read the second Lost reference. OMG, Belle was watching an episode of "Expose"! LOL!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wyliefan View Post
    I didn't catch it myself at the time, but someone else suggested that the book The Mysterious Island was another Lost shoutout.
    That could have been one but that wasn't the one I was thinking about and it is driving me NUTS that I can't remember now! I just rewatched the show and it was definitely in the first twenty minutes because it was in the part I didn't watch live. UGH!!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by manhn View Post
    Oh, Ajira! I was waiting for "Oceanic", I totally forgot that Ajira ever existed!

    And now I remember her. She played "Sage" (or is Saje?) on The Vampire Diaries. She has a very distinctive chin.

    And while I reading IMDB, I read the second Lost reference. OMG, Belle was watching an episode of "Expose"! LOL!
    THAT'S IT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I about peed my pants laughing over her choice of TV viewing in the hospital lounge!! Those writers are flipping sneaky with getting stuff like that into OUAT! SO funny!
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    So Mr. Gold remembers he is Rumple out in the real world, but he has no magic. Without magic, is he reverting to a "coward?"

    Hook is quite the alley cat, isn't he?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nan View Post
    So Mr. Gold remembers he is Rumple out in the real world, but he has no magic. Without magic, is he reverting to a "coward?"

    Hook is quite the alley cat, isn't he?
    I don't know if it's that he's reverting to his cowardly state but he's definitely not on his game knowing for sure now that his magic doesn't work outside of Storybrooke. Part of it is probably nerves for finding his son but for a man who has always been in control, this out of control feeling is probably very overwhelming for him. It will be fascinating to see him deal with that along with everything else in the next episode!

    BTW-There are some Evil Regal people out there who are really scaring me right now. The stuff they're saying about everyone else in town and going off on how badly they're treating Regina is getting on my last nerve. They are so desperately into their fandom that I sometimes feel like we aren't watching the same show. Why are they out to make the Charming family the enemy??! They haven't done anything to her (and they've been more than patient with her IMO). Regina was on her way to redemption but now she's been all corrupted by Cora and is making very poor choices that are definitely more like the Evil Queen. Why aren't they mad at CORA???! Oy vey. /end rant
    An MLB.com reporter asked what one thing Votto couldn’t do. “I can’t skate or play hockey,” Votto said. “Well, I can skate ... but I can’t stop.”

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    Bumping this up for tonight's epic episode and I hope to see a lot of you around this evening for some fun discussion!!!
    An MLB.com reporter asked what one thing Votto couldn’t do. “I can’t skate or play hockey,” Votto said. “Well, I can skate ... but I can’t stop.”

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    Quote Originally Posted by HeatherC View Post
    BTW-There are some Evil Regal people out there who are really scaring me right now. The stuff they're saying about everyone else in town and going off on how badly they're treating Regina is getting on my last nerve. They are so desperately into their fandom that I sometimes feel like we aren't watching the same show. Why are they out to make the Charming family the enemy??!
    There's always a group that tries to make the heroes out to be the villains. Makes 'em feel all subversive and smart. (Because they forget it's already been done about forty-seven thousand times.)
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    That ending was fantastic. So, how much of the future does Rumple actually know? Did he know that Belle would be shot? Did he know that he would someday be reunited with her? Did he know that he would even fall in love with her (i.e. let me kidnap her, put on my charm, and she'll fall for me!). Did he know that he had a grandson?

    "You can have more than one." LOL!

    ETA: OMG, where they shot the chase scene, I had a cup of coffee there last week!
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    There was an awful lot that was predictable about that episode . . . but the ending was nicely ambiguous.
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    Yeah, I knew some of the things that were coming but tonight's episode was still SOOOOOO satisfying for me. I was going to go to bed but I need to type up some thoughts so I can get them out of my poor over fried head tonight (Revenge killed me too, LOL).

    Emma & Neal are pure gold in so many ways (pun not intended but it does work, LOL). I love their chemistry and I REALLY love that Emma laid into Neal for what he did to her. That meeting on the street was insanely awesome/heartbreaking and I loved the little stomp/pouty thing that she did when he wanted to go to the bar (hello there 17 year old Emma, LOL ). Their whole interaction in the bar was amazing too (loved her yanking the swan necklace off when he asked her about it even though that was sad ) and I don't think Neal totally understands how devastated she was over him and how much what he did completely broke her and killed that last little bit of hope she had left. Neal doesn't know that August didn't watch over Emma yet either so I think that will make things a bit different for Neal once he realizes how Emma's life went after she got out of prison. I also loved that he came back to his apartment to protect her from his father. It's so obvious to me that they still care about each other (Emma's reaction to the dreamcatcher in Neal's apartment, his reaction to her swan necklace, him coming back to protect her from his father, them agreeing even through their pain that they don't want to hurt Henry, etc.) but I think it's going to be a long road for them to figure that out again. There's just too many emotions going on right now on both sides for things to work out, but in the end, I really believe that these two will be each other's happy ending. Michael Raymond James and Jennifer Morrison are just awesome together. I LOVE THEM.

    Speaking of Jennifer's awesomeness, her scenes with Henry tonight broke my heart (well, that whole sequence in Neal's apartment broke my heart in general) and you can tell Emma's head is just too overwhelmed to comprehend everything right now. Her phone call to Snow to ask for advice was priceless but her realization that she lied to Henry to protect herself instead of protecting him was really sad. We know she never wanted to hurt Henry over the dad information and I think Henry will forgive Emma once the dust settles, but seeing their relationship broken was the thing that really mad me sad tonight. You could tell how much it hurt Emma to hear Henry say she was just like Regina (OY VEY, that did me in....we know she's about as different from Regina as you can get but in his anger, all he sees is that she lied to him too and that broke me down hard. ) and after the whole Neal thing, I think Emma's wall won't be coming down again for a good while. My heart broke so many times for her tonight and I honestly have no idea where she's going to go emotionally from here. (((((Emma)))))

    Rumple's back story with the seer was pretty fascinating and I was surprised that he injured himself to get out of the war due to that seer's prediction (which obviously wasn't about the war but about him losing Bae the way it actually happened at that portal). His whole life is kind of out of whack due to the misinterpretations of that seer and I find myself wondering now what he's going to do with that last piece of information about the 'child being his undoing". That can be interpreted SO many ways and now that he knows Henry is his grandson, he's got some big decisions to make regarding that prophecy and it will be interesting to see what he does next. Interesting to learn how he got the power to see the future too (relating back to the early episodes of season one where we learned that fact from Snow & Charming's conversations). Robert C. was also amazing tonight and actually, I thought everyone was really great tonight. This was seriously one of the best episodes of the whole series and kudos to Jen, Robert, MRJ, Jared Gilmore, and everyone else for totally bringing it.

    I LOVED Snow and Charming talking about their family tree! Nice diversion from the other drama going on and hehe, classic line alert: "Good thing we don't have Thanksgiving in our land, because that dinner would suck." -Charming

    I hated the part with Greg spying on everyone. It didn't seem to fit into this episode and I just don't care enough about him right now to tolerate his presence in this otherwise fantastic episode. Where are they going with that story?!

    I really hope Regina is playing her mother like a string instrument because Cora is just downright evil and I really don't want her to succeed in finding that dagger. I think that last part where Cora threw Hook across the room will be what drives Hook to the Charming side of the battle lines. Ugh, Cora is just awful. Regina...you were doing so well with the whole being good thing! STOP TRUSTING YOUR MOTHER!!!!

    Michael Raymond James needs to be a full time cast member next season. He was great in the scenes with Jen, I loved his scenes with Henry (although I fear Henry will find out the hard way that his dad isn't really any better than Emma when he looks at the big picture and really understands what his dad did to her), and he easily went toe to toe with Robert C. in their scenes too. I haven't really seen MRJ in anything else prior to this show but I am fast becoming a very big fan of his and I can't wait to see more of him in this second part of the season. Good casting OUAT!!!

    OK, I feel a little better and now I need to go to bed. Emotional overload...AUGH!!! LOL
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    I wonder if Henry being Rumble's undoing is meant in the same way that Belle was the Dark One's undoing...i.e. her loving him was defeating the Dark One and putting an end to his existence, allowing Rumple to come back. I've ALWAYS said that Henry is more than just an antidote to the whole fairytale. I always thought that he was a wildcard; something Regina and Rumple never planned into the whole curse, but now that I know he was foretold by the seer, it's clear he has his own part to play in the story .Who knows, he may end up being a fairytale character himself. :p

    And goodness, aren't motivations going to be beyond twisted? Regina wants Henry, so she's against Rumple, Emma and Snow. Previously Rumple was ambiguous to Henry, but now Henry is his grandson and while I believe he may be entertaining thoughts of offing the poor child, I think he will eventually view this as his way to get a do-over with Bae...do right by Henry, and he's atoning just a small bit for what he didn't do for his son. And Emma wants Henry, so she's against Regina, but now if Rumple has got his finger in the pie, she'll be against him too. And Cora wants Henry because she wants Regina. And Snow and Charming just want their family, dang it!

    Considering that a great deal of their dispute revolves around Henry, I wonder if Emma will end up going back to Storybrook but leaving Henry with Bae. It's a loooooooong shot; she has serious issues with the guy and may not realize exactly how much danger Henry is in, but it's the smartest thing to do. If she and Rumple go back home without Henry there will be big trouble, but at least the greatest danger will be averted, in that Henry can't be used as a bargaining chip by anyone. Which is what I'm really afraid will happen if he goes back. The only person who DOESN'T have a stake in Henry is Hook, but he's really got nothing going for him except a death wish to kill Rumple. He may be the only non-Charming family member to stand by Emma if worst comes to worst, because basically everyone has screwed him over and I don't think he likes being bossed around by Regina and Cora.

    OuaT has alllllllllways been about family. Snow and Charming. Emma and her parents. Rumple and his son. Regina and Cora. Not to mention pretty much every other single character has got family issues. But now our main characters...they're all mashed together and they ALL are family to each other. I'm not saying the series is going to end with them all having Thanksgiving together (snort), but if he show has tried to tell us anything, it's that family is a strong bond. They might have some SERIOUS issues to work but, but still...there's more to this then meets the eye.

    Oh, and since Henry has two magical parents? Kid totally has magic too. He just may not know it yet, just like it took Emma years to discover she had it. :p

    P.S. I think the whole tourist with the camera is going to be our ticket back to Storybook. If he brings the media to Storybrook, the townsfolk are going to have no choice but to go back home. Hence the long foreshadowing talks between Snow and Charming and Jack and his beans, and stuff. That's how we're going back.

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    Henry talling Emma that she was no different than Regina kind of broke my heart.

    I'm not sure how I feel about Bae/Neal right now. I think a lot is going to depend on how he and Henry get along, or don't.
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    I must be the only one in the universe who does NOT want Emma to end up with Neal. He came off as extremely selfish to me in the episode and had a LOT of nerve yelling at her about not telling him she had a kid (uhm hello? left her to rot in jail? and didn't even attempt to make contact once she got out? she SO doesn't owe you anything!!). He is a coward just like his father. Emma needs a love interest who will fight for her, and Neal/Bae has proven time and time again he is NOT that person. If they end up together I will be extremely disappointed.

    Now Hook on the other hand....
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    Quote Originally Posted by flutzilla1 View Post
    I must be the only one in the universe who does NOT want Emma to end up with Neal. He came off as extremely selfish to me in the episode and had a LOT of nerve yelling at her about not telling him she had a kid (uhm hello? left her to rot in jail? and didn't even attempt to make contact once she got out? she SO doesn't owe you anything!!). He is a coward just like his father. Emma needs a love interest who will fight for her, and Neal/Bae has proven time and time again he is NOT that person. If they end up together I will be extremely disappointed.

    Now Hook on the other hand....
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    I stopped watching this show a while back because I couldn't deal with Regina's overacting and Henry annoyed me to no end. But I watched last night's episode because of Michael Raymond James. I loved him in True Blood and I loved him in Terriers. He was great last night. And he was great with Emma.

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    Quote Originally Posted by flutzilla1 View Post
    I must be the only one in the universe who does NOT want Emma to end up with Neal. He came off as extremely selfish to me in the episode and had a LOT of nerve yelling at her about not telling him she had a kid (uhm hello? left her to rot in jail? and didn't even attempt to make contact once she got out? she SO doesn't owe you anything!!). He is a coward just like his father. Emma needs a love interest who will fight for her, and Neal/Bae has proven time and time again he is NOT that person. If they end up together I will be extremely disappointed.

    Now Hook on the other hand....
    Neal's only been in two episodes so far and you're all ready at that point with him? I'm not trying to change your mind or anything but that's an awfully quick rush to judgment since we don't even know what all has happened to him yet. In his defense, he thought he was doing the right thing for her especially since it was his father's curse that caused her to not have her family. His intentions were not bad even though what he did was awful to Emma. Also, I don't think he knows that August didn't fulfill his end of the bargain in watching out for Emma after Neal left (it was the promise he asked of August when they met up in Canada and the only reason Neal would stay away from her). I don't think he knows that Emma gave Henry up for adoption while she was in prison either (that hasn't come up yet and for sure will make a difference). I think he took care of her the best way he could when they were younger and he only left when August butted his annoying wooden nose into everything (not an August fan here if you couldn't tell, LOL). I think once they talk more, Neal's going to understand more about Emma's side of things and she's going to understand what all happened to him after Rumple let go of his hand and he fell into the portal. I give Neal a lot of credit for not lingering on the whole "you kept me from my son" thing (they both seemed adamant about putting Henry first in that last scene together) and he also came back to protect her from Rumple even though he didn't want to see his father so I give him credit for that too. I think these next few weeks will have a lot of revelations for Neal, Emma, Henry, Rumple, and the rest of the cast so it should be pretty intense and fascinating to watch. Sorry for the rant but I feel so protective of Neal that I don't think it's healthy, LOL

    I can see the chemistry between Hook and Emma (honestly, Jennifer Morrison has chemistry with everyone....no wonder Emma has been shipped with almost every character on the show, LOL ) but in the long run, getting involved with a pirate doesn't always end well. Hook doesn't seem to have a high regard for children so he probably won't be too interested in Henry which will be a big deal for Emma because she's not going to leave her kid. He also doesn't stay in one spot too much so that could be a problem. He's pretty vengeful right now too which doesn't sound like prime boyfriend material....at least in my world, LOL Don't get me wrong, I do like the character a lot (and Colin seems like a really sweet guy) but I don't want Emma to end up with Hook long term.

    To each his own ship though!
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    I think Hook is gonna die at some point, probably protecting Emma or something. I mean, all he's here for is to kill Rumple, which ain't gonna happen, so...either he keeps on trying to kill him, or he dies. No hanging it up and going back to pirating for him. Can you imagine it, though? Oh the angst. He really is too hot for words but he does have this awful fixation on vengeance that is kind of a deal breaker, lol.

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    Did I see that Hook had a fake hand in this episode?
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    Quote Originally Posted by TanithandBenFan View Post
    Did I see that Hook had a fake hand in this episode?
    Yeah, I think he got it at the hospital because he hasn't been able to find his hook. I assume they took it away from him upon Emma's request when he was taken there after the car accident but I have no idea where it actually is right now.

    I just rewatched Manhattan earlier tonight and holy crap, it actually got better with a second viewing! Rumple and Bae's scene in the apartment is SO powerful and my heart broke for Emma all over again. I have a feeling this episode will get a lot of rewatches from me for the next two weeks, LOL
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    "I guess I'm just...I'm not used to someone putting me first." -Emma, Once Upon a Time, episode 2x3, Lady of the Lake

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