What skaters are you a fan of, Johnny_Fever?
The voidy ones. T&D, the Duchesnays, various other miscellaneous dance teams, Philippe Candeloro doing Saturday Night Fever (as cheesy as it may have been). Christopher Bowman on a good day. John Curry played for the other team, but he never seemed to forget that he was a guy - at least on the ice.
I'm out of touch with the current crop. That's why I didn't know who Jeffrey Buttle was.
You joined a skating board, despite being ridiculously homophobic, in 2010 and yet you've been out of touch for so long that you've never heard of the 2008 World Champion and 2006 Olympic bronze medalist? That makes total sense!
I'm sure Jeff Buttle will express his horror over the fact that someone might think he is GAY any time now.
Perhaps you should take a page from Johnny Galecki on the appropriate response to people thinking someone might be gay.
Kevin: He compared Scott to a disposable feminine cleansing product one might use on a summer's eve.
Meagan: Yeah, and the bag it came in. -The Big Bang Theory, performed by the Canadian WTT team and interpreted by Cyn.
I do not see why Johnny_Fever is so hung up on this BS. Who the hell cares, it is for fun. Who gives a crap if a skater is gay. I'm supposed to be the eville conservative, come on!
Come on Johnny_Fever, as the inimitable Johnny Mac would say, "You CAN NOT be serious!"
As Subway said, "you need to get out more." Seems like your to berthesghost's "good point" is at least a good starting point. Now, I think you should just watch the entire skaters' parody video, and then tweet Jeff B to call YOU, maybe! Jeff B's cool moves must have got you so worked up, you felt "crazy."
BTW Johnny_Fever, yes, John Curry never forgot he was a guy and he never forgot he was gay either. Back in his day, it was important to keep it mum publicly. While Curry recognized the importance of portraying a "masculine image" on the ice (in those culturally uptight times), he also learned how to express himself on the ice in a way that displayed a "masculine image" without selling out who he was personally, stylistically, artistically. Once Curry had Olympic gold in his grasp, he stared down the media and answered simply "Yes," to their besides the point, nosy, prying, dumba** query, "Are you gay?"
What many skaters had to endure and the line they had to tiptoe around in earlier eras has changed and is slowly changing even more hopefully for the better. Johnny W rebelled against a lot of "stick-in-the-mud" conventions and he ended up paying a price at times, but frankly the convergence of Johnny's fab image and rebellious stance along with changing attitudes in the larger culture has made attitudes a bit more relaxed in the world of fs. Now it's cool not necessarily to be gay, but to be whoever the h*ll you friggin' are. It's even more cool to express yourself on the ice and allow your talent to speak for you, without worrying so much about whether your costume or your smooth moves portray a "masculine image." If you're skating in the men's field, you're a man, no matter who you're dating or flirting with.
Last edited by aftershocks; 08-02-2012 at 02:35 AM.
Oh yes, and have you heard of this little thing, called, "dramatic flair"? "acting"? "exaggeration"? "HAVING FUN"?! Jeez. I don't even want to know what my face and mannerisms do when I'm dancing around my bedroom lip-synching...
No, I didn't know who Jeffery Buttle was, and after watching those 5 seconds worth of video footage, I have no intention of finding out more about him. I remember John Curry's amateur/professional transition very distinctly. Even as a professional, he never crossed the line, much the way classically trained male ballet dancers never do.
Ten minutes later I still don't know where to begin.
This "line" is in your head. Your closed-minded narrow little brain. Who are you to say where "the line" is? Shouldn't "the line" be a construct of each individual? I know where my line is to be crossed - but it is in a different place to someone else's. So why should Jeff not place the line where he chooses? What gives you the right to tell him - a World champion and Olympic medallist - that he crossed the line?
I prefer a world where people aren't shoved into tiny uncomfortable boxes, forced by closed-minded traditionalists who are hell-bent against growing, learning, changing, accepting.
And Jeff Buttle is one of the best, most artistic skaters of all time.
And Bugs Bunny was in drag every week, and no one ever protested.
Men have been co-opting "feminine" gestures, attributes, attitudes, etc. since the dawn of time, for laughs, for fun, to make a point, for homage or tribute, because such things come naturally to some guys, or maybe just because FEMALES ARE AWESOME and we want to be more like them. GET OVER IT.
Last edited by toddlj; 08-02-2012 at 05:12 PM.
Loved the video and still hope the last three pages of discussion were result of a joke. In case Johnny_ Fever is not pulling a leg and in skater’s defense I want to say that it takes a very talented and secure person to act and create something this funny and wonderful. Figure skating is not “macho” sport but its fans and sportsmen are as devoted and proud as in any other blood-spitting-buttocks-kicking-teeth-grunting manly sport.
I just saw the Call Me Maybe video and you can count me with those that LOVE it. The skaters have such a great sense of fun and humor you just can't help but smile and laugh along with them. It makes me so happy to see how much fun they had making this video for us. I won't even comment to Johnny_Fever, because It's my opinion that he has some issues that need work. He seems like a homophobic bigot, to me, but that's just my opinion