Page 24 of 33 FirstFirst ... 142223242526 ... LastLast
Results 461 to 480 of 647
  1. #461
    Registered User
    Join Date
    Dec 2009
    Posts
    4,401
    vCash
    500
    Rep Power
    0
    ^^ Yes, I agree that Ven's outfit was not the worst for this Challenge. However, despite the prettiness of his fabric, the overall outcome was boring. As one of the judges said, the design and construction of Ven's outfit did absolutely nothing for the model's body. Obviously, there is and always has been a lot going on behind the scenes that we are not aware of. Ven spent his capital with the judges a long time ago, plus he failed to do anything fantastic to rebuild his standing. And when you get on Tim Gunn's bad side, well that's gonna mark you for the end of the road too.

    However, IMO, it is how a designer takes some of the often ridiculous and belittling criticism on PR that will determine how far they go. It's a combination of how good you are as a designer and how you respond to the PR torture that's key. Ven is a good designer with a seemingly limited aesthetic, and he doesn't take criticism well. He seemed to sulk and give up. I don't think Ven is the worst contestant ever on PR -- some past PR contestants have displayed awful personalities, but were either liked by some of the judges or perhaps by the producers (Elena is a case in point, in this regard). Ven apparently was increasingly disliked by the judges, Tim, and the producers. I always loved Santino from Season 2, but he is generally regarded as having been hated by a lot of people. I'm sure the producers loved him (with all his witty quips and his outsized personality). Santino is an interesting designer/ character who lost his way with his Final Collection.

    IMO, Ven never recovered from the way he reacted and the insulting things he said during the "real woman" challenge.

    Maybe PR could have an All-Star series that brings back all the designers that people loved to hate.

  2. #462
    Sexy Superhero
    Join Date
    Apr 2001
    Location
    Running Amok
    Posts
    932
    vCash
    500
    Rep Power
    0
    Well, it's not the first time the judges have eliminated boring designs while keeping tacky designs that at least tried to meet the objectives of the challenge.

  3. #463
    Registered User
    Join Date
    Dec 2009
    Posts
    4,401
    vCash
    500
    Rep Power
    0
    ^^ Absolutely true! Too many times to count, in fact. And this has happened regardless of whether or not the contestant was well-liked or hated. I do think the judges' feeling about a bottom candidate's design skills as well as personality and ability to take criticism also factors in (along with input from producers and Tim). Over the seasons, there have been numerous auf'ings that have been undeserved too, IMHO, while lesser efforts by less skilled designers were safe. In Ven's case, he didn't perform well last week and this week, as well as having poor showings for the most part in the group challenges.

  4. #464
    Beach Bum
    Join Date
    May 2002
    Location
    Maryland burbs and shore
    Posts
    13,107
    vCash
    583
    Rep Power
    10376
    Ven has a signature which means that his future lines will be distinctive and recognizable. He isn't versatile, but he doesn't need to make costumes and plus sized clothes if his line sells well.

    Chris and Dmitry are far more versatile, which is what you need to win Project Runway.
    I think I will have a snack and take a nap before I eat and go to sleep.

  5. #465
    snarking for AZE
    Join Date
    Aug 2005
    Location
    katbert greenhouse
    Posts
    30,171
    vCash
    2068
    Rep Power
    50062
    Quote Originally Posted by Rob View Post

    Chris and Dmitry are far more versatile, which is what you need to win Project Runway.
    and elena is a little mentally unhinged which is what you need to overstay your welcome. she's not even nutty in an interesting way.
    I feel like I'm in a dream. But it can't be a dream because there are no boy dancers!

  6. #466
    aspiring tri-national
    Join Date
    Mar 2003
    Location
    in flight
    Posts
    20,551
    vCash
    500
    Rep Power
    39757
    Quote Originally Posted by my little pony View Post
    and elena is a little mentally unhinged which is what you need to overstay your welcome. she's not even nutty in an interesting way.
    Actually I like her. She helps me imagine what Tinami was like at that age.
    "Youth and vigor is no match for age and deceit." -- Prancer

  7. #467

    Join Date
    Sep 2002
    Posts
    13,528
    vCash
    500
    Rep Power
    42165
    Quote Originally Posted by Rob View Post
    Ven has a signature which means that his future lines will be distinctive and recognizable. He isn't versatile, but he doesn't need to make costumes and plus sized clothes if his line sells well.

    Chris and Dmitry are far more versatile, which is what you need to win Project Runway.
    True. on all counts.
    I expect that Ven will find his place in the industry.

  8. #468
    snarking for AZE
    Join Date
    Aug 2005
    Location
    katbert greenhouse
    Posts
    30,171
    vCash
    2068
    Rep Power
    50062
    Quote Originally Posted by PRlady View Post
    Actually I like her. She helps me imagine what Tinami was like at that age.
    i like to think that tinami would crush all competition
    I feel like I'm in a dream. But it can't be a dream because there are no boy dancers!

  9. #469
    Registered User
    Join Date
    Jan 2005
    Posts
    17,248
    vCash
    500
    Rep Power
    0
    Quote Originally Posted by duane View Post
    I immediately thought this as well.

    Bye bye dough boy! I actually didn't think Ven was the worst of the night, but all that matters is he's gone.
    I think skating people are more sensitive to how outfits will appear from a distance. And how lighting (and the ice) can suck the color out of everything.

    Quote Originally Posted by PRlady View Post
    Actually I like her. She helps me imagine what Tinami was like at that age.
    I like her too. But, I have from the beginning. I think she's talented. A bit crazy, but (we ) artists can be crazy. I thought she got a bit over the top, but thought that she seemed to be stressing. That she was actually a nicer person than was coming across. I genuinely think she was crying for Ven last night, not just relief that she made it.

  10. #470

    Join Date
    Sep 2002
    Posts
    13,528
    vCash
    500
    Rep Power
    42165
    I genuinely think she was crying for Ven last night, not just relief that she made it.
    I do, too.
    She said that learning about Ven's background - much younger male in a household of women - made her understand him more.

  11. #471

    Join Date
    Jul 2002
    Location
    Rude Europe
    Posts
    4,115
    vCash
    500
    Rep Power
    1714
    Loved Dmitry's, I totally would have worn it as a skating costume. Christopher's was nice, but could the detail of the skyline really be seen from a distance on the stage?

    Next week's challenge looks like a nightmare.

  12. #472
    Registered User
    Join Date
    Mar 2012
    Posts
    462
    vCash
    500
    Rep Power
    0
    Next week - ugh! at least use 3/4 year olds. They have some shape.

  13. #473
    Registered User
    Join Date
    Dec 2002
    Location
    Celebrating Jeremy Abbott's FS at 2014 Worlds...
    Posts
    21,222
    vCash
    500
    Rep Power
    0
    I've only been watching PR half-hazardly this season, and after the "Real Woman" challenge, I don't think I've ever been as disgusted with a competitor as I was with Ven (with Jeffrey the Tattooed Giraffe making Angela's mother cry running a tight second, and I nearly tore my hair out with that asshole won the season).

    Since the beginning, I've been on Team Snape -- the fact that he's a former ballroom dancer was an added plus.

    So long Origami Rose, your shitty attitude won't be missed one bit.

  14. #474
    Registered User
    Join Date
    Jan 2005
    Posts
    17,248
    vCash
    500
    Rep Power
    0
    Next week will be painful to watch if they really have those fake babies crying and disrupting the workroom. Sometimes I really wonder what the heck they are thinking.

  15. #475
    snarking for AZE
    Join Date
    Aug 2005
    Location
    katbert greenhouse
    Posts
    30,171
    vCash
    2068
    Rep Power
    50062
    angela's mother was a horrible person who i think was trying to sabotage the competition
    I feel like I'm in a dream. But it can't be a dream because there are no boy dancers!

  16. #476
    Registered User
    Join Date
    Apr 2008
    Location
    Midwest
    Posts
    4,750
    vCash
    500
    Rep Power
    0
    Quote Originally Posted by my little pony View Post
    angela's mother was a horrible person who i think was trying to sabotage the competition
    Yep. She and Angela were playing passive-aggressive games with Jeffrey. Whereas, Ven's "client" did no such thing.

  17. #477

    Join Date
    Jul 2002
    Posts
    7,157
    vCash
    500
    Rep Power
    44806
    I'm holding out hope that the designers have to care for the babies while designing for a mother...

  18. #478
    Registered User
    Join Date
    Jan 2005
    Posts
    17,248
    vCash
    500
    Rep Power
    0
    Quote Originally Posted by Sparks View Post
    I'm holding out hope that the designers have to care for the babies while designing for a mother...
    I'm still thinking this will be one of the "twist" challenges and that they will have to design for the baby, then Tim will come in and tell them they have to design a co-ordinating look for the Mom.

  19. #479

    Join Date
    Jan 2009
    Location
    Deep in a Dream
    Posts
    7,570
    vCash
    500
    Rep Power
    20067
    Quote Originally Posted by cruisin View Post
    Next week will be painful to watch if they really have those fake babies crying and disrupting the workroom. Sometimes I really wonder what the heck they are thinking.
    A. Promote Heidi's line of children's clothes
    B. Torment the contestants

    Die Kluminator's sense of humor has a hefty dose of Schadenfreude tinged with sadism. I've seen it over and over on past seasons of Germany's Next Top Model, where it's more overt than it is on PR.

    As for this week's ep, I actually liked where Fabio was going with his design before Tim's critique - the zigzag diagonal stripes on mesh. And I still might have liked his final product had he not added that hideous, opaque, gray, turtle-necked yoke. That really killed what could have been a kind of fun, Xena, Warrior Chorine look.

    Elena. Oy. For a girl who professes to hate glitter, she went seriously overboard with the shine and sparkle and bling. There was nothing good about that dress. It didn't even fit the model.

    Melissa and Sonjia...sigh. Melissa's recycled crumb-catcher neckline was wrong for a dance costume, and Sonjia just made a bad cocktail dress.

    Comrade Snape. My personal favorite. I think he made the best dance costume. Unfortunately, it wasn't right for the Rockettes. I don't think he got that the Rockettes look is G-rated retro-glam with an element of kitsch.

    Christopher, on the other hand, totally got that. I liked his idea; it was a clear winner on the dress form. He should have stuck with his original idea for the skirt, but lengthened it, and gone with a black or blue mesh in the bodice to make the NYC skyline really stand out. I can see why he won, though.

    Ven...yawn. Take away the florigami and he has no ideas beyond "simple, clean, polished" or whatever his mantra is. Another one who didn't seem to get what the Rockettes look is. There was nothing fun or theatrical or even interesting about that "costume". Yes, Elena's was hideous and garish and badly made, and I hate everything she makes, but she at least tried for theatrical details that could be seen from the cheap seats. Ven did not; it seemed as if he was hoping his fabric choice alone would carry him through.
    My job requires me to be a juggler, but that does not mean that I enjoy working with clowns.

  20. #480
    Registered User
    Join Date
    Dec 2009
    Posts
    4,401
    vCash
    500
    Rep Power
    0
    ^^ Great critique on all counts, Nomad! You express so well re Dimitri's, Fabio's, and Chris' designs (strengths, weaknesses, and how they could have improved them to more fully meet requirements of the challenge). Thank you! -- likely the Rockettes will slightly adapt Chris' offering, perhaps similar to what you suggest.

    Heidi "Die Kluminator"!
    Last edited by aftershocks; 09-22-2012 at 07:17 PM.

Page 24 of 33 FirstFirst ... 142223242526 ... LastLast

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •