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    2012 Canadian comps: Minto, WildRose, SummerSizzle, Georges-Éthier, Octoberfest, etc.

    Here's a catch-all thread for the other Canadian non-qualifying summer/fall competitions that don't already have their own event threads (Québec, Thornhill, BC/YT SummerSkate).

    Minto Summer Skate, August 2-5, Ottawa, ON - schedule and flight lists are up at: http://summerskate.mintoskatingclub.com/
    "Randy [Starkman (1960-April 16, 2012)] lived by the same motto as the rest of us. The Olympics isn’t every four years, it’s every single day. He just got it." --Canadian Olympic kayaker Adam van Koeverden

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    This will be the first look at Nam Nguyen this season, which should be interesting - has he grown, is the triple axel more secure, etc.

    I noticed one new ice dance team (there may be more): Jade Marrow/Benjamin Mulder. I believe she was last skating with Allan Stoll, and he was skating with Olga Lioudvinevitch.

    There are other new teams here as well, but I think they've already been discussed in the Lake Placid thread or the Canadian Ice dance thread.

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    Flights and schedule have been posted for the Wild Rose competition which will take place in Leduc, Alberta on August 3-5.

    The most notable skater registered is Kaetlyn Osmond in senior women.

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    Results page for Minto Summer Skate is up. I haven't checked the schedule to see exactly how current it is, but there's quite a bit there already.

    Julianne Seguin apparently skated very well in the short program, with a 3F and 3LZ combo. Hopefully she follows it up with a strong long program. She seems prepared for her JGP assignment. Alaine Chartrand, on the other hand, seems to be struggling with her jumps at the moment, although she still has a month to get them in order for the JGP at Lake Placid.

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    Any live streams of Thornhill or Quebec Summer Skate this year via Skatebuzz? Those are usually free and fun to watch.

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    Minto results for Thursday and Friday have been up since yesterday, but nothing from Saturday yet. Perhaps they are waiting for all the competitions to conclude before posting Saturday and Sunday results.

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    Nearly all the Minto results are up now at http://summerskate.mintoskatingclub....2-results.html

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    Thanks.

    From the detailed protocols it looks like Nam Nguyen is ready for this JGP assignment, although the triple axel (not surprisingly) continues to be elusive for him. He apparently landed seven triples in the long program, with his only error being a singling of the axel.

    Julianne Seguin also seems ready, following up her strong short program with a strong six-triple long program.

    I would expect Bent/MacKeen to be given a JGP assignment based on their skating here, which appears to have been very strong.

    The dance programs in general appear to have been marked a bit higher here than at Lake Placid, since all six teams that competed at both Lake Placid and Minto had significantly higher scores here than they did at Lake Placid. Of course, some of the difference may have been due to fixing elements in between competitions in order to raise their levels.

    ETA:

    Assignments for skaters here:
    1. Nam Nguyen - JGP France
    2. Julianne Seguin - JGP France
    3. Alaine Chartrand - JGP Lake Placid. Based on the protocols she had a great first half of her long program (3LZ, 3F, 3Loop and 2A) and then a disastrous second half of the program (falls on 3T, 3Lz and 3Loop). I guess she's half-ready. At least she's not backing off on the jump attempts.
    4. Andreanne Poulin/Marc-Andre Servant - JGP Lake Placid. They seem ready also. They were second to Bent/MacKeen, with a very good score in the short dance and a reasonable score in the free dance.
    Last edited by geoskate; 08-06-2012 at 04:21 AM.

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    Nam Nguyen scored 178.70 at Minto to Jason Brown's 206.52 at Grand Rapids. They both skate at Courchevel.

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    You continually amaze me with how you seize any opportunity to comment negatively on developing Canadian skaters. It's quite remarkable.

    Nam is only14 (?) years old, and this is only his second season on the JGP. I don't think anybody expects him to win, or necessarily even to medal in France. Jason is a much more seasoned competitor on the JGP. I should hope he would be scoring better the Nam at this point.

    I think Nam should be congratulated on a two great skates in which he landed everything he attempted except the triple axel. As I mentioned, his long program had seven clean triples. That's pretty good for a 14-year-old. Of course, perhaps you intended to add your congratulations, as any reasonable person would, but simply forgot, in which case readers can ignore the first paragraph.

    ETA: For comparison, Nam's first competition last season was at Thornhill, where his total score was 153.20. This was a 25-point improvement over that, which I think is good progress season-to-season.
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    Nam Nguyen debuted on the JGP last season and won the bronze in Romania - he turned 14 in May. He was credited with landing two clean 3A at Junior Worlds (preliminary round FS & final FS). He made a coaching change to Brian Orser this summer - link to his updated ISU bio with program music: http://www.isuresults.com/bios/isufs00012641.htm
    (Note to euterpe: Brown just competed at Glacier Falls, not Grand Rapids.)
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    Jason has just one more season on the JGP than Nam Nguyen. In his first season, Jason won silver at his first event but was 6th in his second. That is fairly comparable to what Nam did in his first season.

    It's not impossible for Nam to medal at Courchevel, but it won't be easy. Brown and Hino (JPN) both made it to the JGPF last season and He Zhang (CHN) was a JGPF alternate. Kolyada was 4th in his first and only JGP event.

    At 14, Nam has a great career ahead of him. He probably won't hit his full stride for at least another year. Meanwhile, Brown, Farris and Han Yan may have preferred to move up to the GP this year, but their federations decided they should do another year in the JGP.

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    Quote Originally Posted by euterpe View Post
    At 14, Nam has a great career ahead of him. He probably won't hit his full stride for at least another year. Meanwhile, Brown, Farris and Han Yan may have preferred to move up to the GP this year, but their federations decided they should do another year in the JGP.
    Sorry for the OT - that may be true for Yan, but both Brown and Farris explained their reasoning for returning to the JGP in this recent article: http://www.fsuniverse.net/forum/show...&postcount=299

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    Quote Originally Posted by geoskate View Post
    Flights and schedule have been posted for the Wild Rose competition which will take place in Leduc, Alberta on August 3-5.

    The most notable skater registered is Kaetlyn Osmond in senior women.
    Wild Rose results should be posted here at some point: http://www.skateabnwtnun.com/en-us/c...013season.aspx

    Cross-posting Kaetlyn Osmond's videos from the Skate Detroit thread:
    SP Group B (5th, 41.69): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_ZaWq4iaq0s
    FS Group B (2nd, 90.77): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=czwfbAvw2Ts
    FS Final (3rd, 100.03): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dEcqwsbjMco
    Last edited by Sylvia; 08-06-2012 at 06:26 PM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sylvia View Post

    Wild Rose results should be posted here at some point: http://www.skateabnwtnun.com/en-us/c...013season.aspx
    These results are now posted.

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    I found this video of Kaetlyn Osmond Wildrose Short Program.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JanetB View Post
    I found this video of Kaetlyn Osmond Wildrose Short Program.
    Can't say I like her costume----it makes her derriere look prodigious. Her skating is OK, but I don't much like illusion spins in competitive skating.

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    Any results up from SummerSizzle yet?

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    Quote Originally Posted by euterpe View Post
    Jason has just one more season on the JGP than Nam Nguyen. In his first season, Jason won silver at his first event but was 6th in his second. That is fairly comparable to what Nam did in his first season.

    At 14, Nam has a great career ahead of him. He probably won't hit his full stride for at least another year. Meanwhile, Brown, Farris and Han Yan may have preferred to move up to the GP this year, but their federations decided they should do another year in the JGP.
    I'm not sure it's fair to compare the 2 of them yet, even if Jason just has one more season on JGP than Nam. Nam is still a boy; Jason has had a couple of growth spurts and is closer to a powerful, adult frame. I look forward to seeing how they both develop.

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    Nam Nguyen's competition in the future will come from Nathan Chen (debuting in the JGP at Linz) and Vincent Zhou (too young yet for the JGP).

    No results yet for Summer Sizzle.

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    Results are up for Prairie Skate, which is a fairly small competition in Saskatchewan.

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