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    The nickname Pharmalita still gets me I am never going to be able to watch her race again without thinking about it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cachoo View Post
    I remember how low many though Shirley Babishoff was for calling out the East Germans who beat her in the pool. What is depressing is that this is still a problem (especially on the track) all of these years later. My question is how can someone who is so obviously cheating (Pharmalita) pass the tests?

    poths -- I think you should be on the committee who oversees these tests.
    Put simply, most of these designer drugs are undetectable. A drug needs to be known to the scientists in order for them to create a test for them to detect it. Where the drug is unknown, there is no test and thus no chance of failing.

    Where athletes use steroids, they mainly do so in the off season essentially to help them train longer and work harder. Generally, off season athletes go untested or can avoid tests (unless they are British and have a national body that stalks them all year long).


    Venelina Veneva is an interesting case of steroid abuse. She's a Bulgarian Hugh jumper (I don't want to comment on her appearance, but she destroyed herself aesthetically with drug abuse). Steroids hardly make a person jump higher, but they do enable them to push themselves more and get more numbers in training. Veneva was actually pushing her body to the limit. She was finally caught when her self confidence was dwindling and a winter of injury forced her to use steroids on the cusp of the summer season, then first competition out she was tested and caught. I can't help but think she was the epitome of a misguided fool who probably would have jumped the same heights without drugs and DEFINITELY looked better doing it!

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    Quote Originally Posted by mazzy View Post
    Another obvious example would be Discus Thrower Pichalnikova who came out of a ban last year and this year improved her PB by 5(!) metres to the best in something like 20 years. Frankly, the disparity between men's and women's results in the Russian & Ukrainian teams is quite reminiscent of GDR.
    Very true and add her hammer throwing teammate Lysenko to that.

    Hopefully Muller and Heidler can beat them both in London. How things have changed! Whilst GDR athletes were positively bursting with steroids, I would say Germany are the cleanest athletic nation in the sport at present.

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    Quote Originally Posted by poths View Post
    Put simply, most of these designer drugs are undetectable. A drug needs to be known to the scientists in order for them to create a test for them to detect it. Where the drug is unknown, there is no test and thus no chance of failing.

    Where athletes use steroids, they mainly do so in the off season essentially to help them train longer and work harder. Generally, off season athletes go untested or can avoid tests (unless they are British and have a national body that stalks them all year long).


    Venelina Veneva is an interesting case of steroid abuse. She's a Bulgarian Hugh jumper (I don't want to comment on her appearance, but she destroyed herself aesthetically with drug abuse). Steroids hardly make a person jump higher, but they do enable them to push themselves more and get more numbers in training. Veneva was actually pushing her body to the limit. She was finally caught when her self confidence was dwindling and a winter of injury forced her to use steroids on the cusp of the summer season, then first competition out she was tested and caught. I can't help but think she was the epitome of a misguided fool who probably would have jumped the same heights without drugs and DEFINITELY looked better doing it!

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    I can't believe she's still around! I remember watching her jump in Edmonton at the 2001 Worlds, Competing at the Olympics AGAIN?! she has about as much chance of winning a medal as I do...
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    IAAF Suspends 9 athletes for doping, 2 ukrainians and 3 russians, shame that those russians dont include Pyschalnikova or Lysenko

    http://www.ctvolympics.ca/athletics/...cid=BMD_Widget

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    Very bad transvestite indeed: These before and after pictures are horrendous.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cachoo View Post
    Very bad transvestite indeed: These before and after pictures are horrendous.
    Is it bad I'm thinking of the Sweet Transvestite song from Rocky Horror when I see those pics?
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    Greek high jumper fails test

    Greece's world indoor high jump champion Dimitris Chondrokoukis has pulled out of the London Olympics after testing positive for a banned substance, the athlete's father confirmed today. The 24-year-old high jumper, who was one of Greece's best hopes for a medal in track and field, will seek a retest after testing positive for banned anabolic steroid Stanozolol.
    To think that fun is simple fun, while earnest things are earnest, proves all too plain that neither one thou truthfully discernest.

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    The Greek team is depleting!
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    Also out: Kövago, the second Hungarian discus thrower after Fazekas. And Turkish weight lifters Baydar & Arat.
    I have the impression that many NOCs fear detection at Olys and decided to get rid of some of their liabilities. Good to see.

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    Terrified by the Twitter rumours...they are just starting to gather momentum.

    https://twitter.com/albertostretti

    ^^This guy was first to post about many the positive drug test. I really hope he's wrong, it could potentially ruin British and American track, the Salazar group are that prominent.

    I'm not even going to name the athletes involved, it's not fair at this point :/

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    From the BBC live feed:

    Uzbek gymnast Luiza Galiulina has been provisionally banned from the London Games for a positive drugs test, the International Olympic Committee has announced.

    Galiulina provided a urine sample on July 25 that tested positive for the prohibited substance furosemide - a diuretic that can be used as a masking agent or for weight loss.
    To think that fun is simple fun, while earnest things are earnest, proves all too plain that neither one thou truthfully discernest.

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    Quote Originally Posted by poths View Post
    Terrified by the Twitter rumours...they are just starting to gather momentum.

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    Really curious about this! I'm not on twitter so haven't read anything. I'm suspect of the Chinese swimmers. Some of the female swimmers from China that I saw yesterday look like men.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rafter View Post
    Really curious about this! I'm not on twitter so haven't read anything. I'm suspect of the Chinese swimmers. Some of the female swimmers from China that I saw yesterday look like men.
    The 16 year old who won the 400 IM. The way she accelerated was just stupid, and she sure wasn't built like a 16 year old...

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    And Ian Thorpe when he was 14 didn't look 14. Some people are big early. they're not average people, that's why they're in the Olympics...

    but of course, other things could be at play too...

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    Tameka Williams of Trinidad and Tobago has been sent back home from the Olympics. Speculation is this is because she failed a drug test.

    http://www.cbssports.com/olympics/st...-sprinter-home
    This is speculation not confirmed.

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    Wow, Veneva really looks and sounds like a bad drag queen....

    Quote Originally Posted by AYS View Post
    What are these people thinking? That's all I want to know. Just, what?
    That they can get away with it because they have very good specialists responsible for 'enhancing' them?

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    Quote Originally Posted by poths View Post
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    OMG, in that video she reminds me of the lead singer for Dead or Alive!

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    Quote Originally Posted by ks1227 View Post
    OMG, in that video she reminds me of the lead singer for Dead or Alive!
    Have you seen that lead singer LATELY!?

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