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    Thumbs down The lack of grace in floor exercise routines

    An interesting read on the lack of grace/dance in today's gymnastic floor routines (lots of fun video clips in it, too!)

    http://www.slate.com/articles/sports...s_.single.html
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    From the article:

    In the majority of routines, gymnasts are merely going through the motions, checking skills off their checklists and moving onto the next until the music stops.
    This describes what so many skaters do now, too.

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    I agree. I saw Ksenia M. (I believe that's is her name) floor routine during team competition as well as one of her teammates and had to stop watching. It didn't seem like anything went with the music and they had no grace what so ever.

    Mind you I stopped watching gymnastics after 2002 Olympics and was a lover of the Russian gymnast's grace (esp the ones who competed in Atlanta) but not anymore

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    I hate that women's gymnastics uses music for floor routines. The men's routines are far more interesting because they're not trying to bring some twee version of artistry to it. They actually end up being far more artistic because they're not trying so hard.
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    Quote Originally Posted by genevieve View Post
    I hate that women's gymnastics uses music for floor routines. The men's routines are far more interesting because they're not trying to bring some twee version of artistry to it. They actually end up being far more artistic because they're not trying so hard.
    I agree!
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    I wish men had music too, but only if Floor Exercises were like the ones in the 80s where they actually had choreography.
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    This describes what so many skaters do now, too.
    I will take a zillion Morozov programs over any floor exercise routine, man or woman.

    I do disagree with the article's position that floor exercise was ever good.

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    I don't know how one can watch a Soviet routine and not think it was at least good.
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    Quote Originally Posted by genevieve View Post
    I hate that women's gymnastics uses music for floor routines. The men's routines are far more interesting because they're not trying to bring some twee version of artistry to it. They actually end up being far more artistic because they're not trying so hard.
    Heck yah!! I couldn't agree more.
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    Quote Originally Posted by genevieve View Post
    I hate that women's gymnastics uses music for floor routines. The men's routines are far more interesting because they're not trying to bring some twee version of artistry to it. They actually end up being far more artistic because they're not trying so hard.
    Agreed.

    I have never really associated gymnastics, men's or women's, with dance or artistry. It's about acrobatics. Nice lines and positions are good, but I don't expect choreography, relating to the music, presenting a story, etc...

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    I thought the Polish woman today in the AA competition had some artistry/grace on floor.

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    This thread depresses me.
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    There is just barely any continuity of motion.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HisWeirness View Post
    I thought the Polish woman today in the AA competition had some artistry/grace on floor.
    Yeah too bad NBC didn't show it. The five they did showed didn't impress me.

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    More than "grace" (whatever it is supposed to be) I miss that beautiful rhythm that used to exist with these gymnastic routines (esp beam), and the details to perfect every move, including what's in between the tricks (even the one step back getting ready to tumble). Now the routines are so long and hard; gymnasts are focused on their tricks and the gymnasts don't always pay attention to the little stuff between the big tricks.

    Carly Patterson, even though she wasn't what I call graceful, had it. So did Liukin. I wish more gymnasts had that.

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    Carly Patterson had it? Really?
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    Not "grace", but she had a calming rhythm to what she did and a complete lack of whimpy moves and steps. Which was rather pleasant to watch, at least to me. Of course, I preferred Ponor, but I liked Carly too.

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    Carly was nice on beam. Pretty average on everything else though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jlai View Post
    Not "grace", but she had a calming rhythm to what she did and a complete lack of whimpy moves and steps. Which was rather pleasant to watch, at least to me. Of course, I preferred Ponor, but I liked Carly too.
    I thought Patterson was dreadful of Floor exercise; no expression, plodding movement, no rhythm. She never worked down on the floor, and would miss every beat of music in what was a very pointed exercise. Her tumbling and leap sequences were well done, but it was always very clear that nobody really worked with her on choreography or paying attention to details.

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    Komova has gorgeous lines, but the music is still annoying in her floor routine. I don't think any gymnasts dance their routines, although Russians are better at it than most, but it's not artistic all the way through. It's still gymnastics - dance move - gymnastics - dance move - prancy bit that makes her look 6 - gymnastics - gymnastics. It's embarrassing, and I'd rather see a powerful performance on floor than one that pretends to be artistic.
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