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    Skating to Liebestraum

    I was going to make this a poll, but it would have given lopsided results in favor of M&D because their LP performances to this in 91 and 92 were like a dream.Those turned them into legends of pairs skating.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gFmKiVQAVQ4

    I have always associated Liebestraum with M&D, and I felt that it may be unfair to compare anyone else with them. There have been a few really good performances to Liebestraum though.

    Out of those, I probably like Ilia Kulik's interpretation the most (exhibition program). I love his flair.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qnfn1LBVB-A

    Next would be Gordeeva-Grinkov's 98 Olympics ex and 1990 ex skated to this. It was beautiful.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M70Js-WAE8I

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5vYJE7Ng3Q8

    Mao Asada was lovely, in 2010 and 2011, skating to this music. Just not enough to beat the other three I mentioned.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U_fHcE4uFg4

    Totmianina-Marinin skated a SP to this at a 2000 GP, when they were a new pair and not yet developed into a top pair.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AqvQCPwk2GI

    Did the great Protopopovs ever skate to this music? It seems to ideal for their style of skating.



    I am really interested in seeing how Bazarova-Larionov's SP develops this season. Here is their test skate.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FJdA2VWjueE
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    You forgot Adelina's FS last season:
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qJRDPwgxf4w

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    You forgot Jason!

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8xQt9wYMiYA Junior version

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oy5VUPQ3Nvs Senior version (minus the beginning)

    I can't wait to see this by the end of the season.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vash01 View Post




    Did the great Protopopovs ever skate to this music? It seems to ideal for their style of skating.
    They did skate to Liebestraum. They also skated to Moonlight Sonata & (I believe, but I'm not certain) Mediation from Thais as well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lulu View Post
    They did skate to Liebestraum. They also skated to Moonlight Sonata & (I believe, but I'm not certain) Mediation from Thais as well.
    worlds pro moonlights sonata:
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qky5k...ure=plpp_video

    1968 worlds moonlight sonata:
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hy6Bp...eature=related

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    havent found the protopopov liebestraum program yet. i would really love to so i can watch the performances by generation (protopopovs, g/g, m/d)

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    Quote Originally Posted by zilam98 View Post
    havent found the protopopov liebestraum program yet. i would really love to so i can watch the performances by generation (protopopovs, g/g, m/d)
    I haven't been able to find the Protopopovs' Liebestraum program on youtube either. Hopefully, if a copy exists, it will eventually find it's way online.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lulu View Post
    They did skate to Liebestraum. They also skated to Moonlight Sonata & (I believe, but I'm not certain) Mediation from Thais as well.
    I knew about them skating to Moonlight Sonata and Meditation from Thais. I was not sure if they skated a complete program to Liebestraum or if it was only a part of their program. I thought I found one on Yt last night but the second part seemed to be something else.

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    The Protopopovs skated to Liebestraum at the 2006 Evening of Championship Skating. Unfortunately, I don't have this vid.

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    You picked my two favorite Liebestraum programs right off the top - M&D and Kulik.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zEzAG0KfxzI

    Next would be Gordeeva-Grinkov's 98 Olympics ex and 1990 ex skated to this. It was beautiful.
    I know the video is labelled 1990, but I think this was really the 1989 COI tour. The costumes are from their 1989 freeskate and Katia looks less mature than she did by spring of 1990.

    The three pieces of music most folks think of as Protopopov signature are Moonlight Sonata, Liebestraum and Meditation from Thais. G&G also used all three pieces and skated great programs to them (the latter two as exhibition/tour numbers). Considering that both pairs had very calm skating and extraordinary positions, it isn't surprising that the same music looks good on both.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Susan M View Post
    You picked my two favorite Liebestraum programs right off the top - M&D and Kulik.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zEzAG0KfxzI


    I know the video is labelled 1990, but I think this was really the 1989 COI tour. The costumes are from their 1989 freeskate and Katia looks less mature than she did by spring of 1990.

    The three pieces of music most folks think of as Protopopov signature are Moonlight Sonata, Liebestraum and Meditation from Thais. G&G also used all three pieces and skated great programs to them (the latter two as exhibition/tour numbers). Considering that both pairs had very calm skating and extraordinary positions, it isn't surprising that the same music looks good on both.
    I think I have G&G's Liebestraum on one of the "Champions on Ice best of" videos. It might be Meditation from Thais though, it's been a while since I've watched the tape.
    I never made that connection between the Protopopovs and G&G before, but you're right. Going slightly off topic, I remember the Protopopovs also had a memorable routine to Ave Maria as professionals in the 1980s. I think G&G would have been well suited to skate to that piece as well.

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    something about the liebestraum music makes skaters don purple/blue costumes when they perform to it

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    Kulik's performance reminds me of the balcony scene in Kenneth Macmillan's Romeo and Juliet. I was pretty young when he won the Olympics so haven't looked at his performances with the same intensity that I have of the skaters in the past 10 years, but he is amazing in that clip! Skates like no one else; so much collected confidence in a way that isn't dull or off-putting. Off to see more of his stuff on youtube now...

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    Quote Originally Posted by zilam98 View Post
    something about the liebestraum music makes skaters don purple/blue costumes when they perform to it
    Soft, romantic colours?

    Quote Originally Posted by whoa View Post
    Kulik's performance reminds me of the balcony scene in Kenneth Macmillan's Romeo and Juliet. I was pretty young when he won the Olympics so haven't looked at his performances with the same intensity that I have of the skaters in the past 10 years, but he is amazing in that clip! Skates like no one else; so much collected confidence in a way that isn't dull or off-putting. Off to see more of his stuff on youtube now...
    Oh, I hope you are well-stocked and prepared to swoon in front of the computer...

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    Quote Originally Posted by zilam98 View Post
    something about the liebestraum music makes skaters don purple/blue costumes when they perform to it
    I don't know who performed to Liebestraum before M&D (Protopopovs did, from all accounts, but I have not seen it), but they may have been the trend setters in those colors. Their program had a theme- she was a cloud; he was a poet who was in love with the cloud. So the purple/lavendar (although Artur wore somewhat graying colors in '91) were very much along that theme. Kulik wore white and that worked well too. Some colors would be too harsh- black or red, for example- and soft colors seem to be safe ones for this music.

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    My favourite is Jennifer Robinson. I remember watching her skate to this music at the Cup Of Russia in 2001 & then the Olympics & Worlds in 2002.
    I thought she really loved skating to the music & the choreography was beautiful.

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    it is not possible to delete a posting?Sorry, made a mistake.
    which music is this:
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=me4FlewMtaI

    Tara
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tarasirius View Post
    it is not possible to delete a posting?Sorry, made a mistake.
    which music is this:
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=me4FlewMtaI

    Tara
    I don't believe the music is Liebestraum, but no worries the routine is absolutely gorgeous! Thanks for the video. The Protopopovs really had an ethereal quality to their skating and so polished, the quality of their skating is breathtaking.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tarasirius View Post
    it is not possible to delete a posting?Sorry, made a mistake.
    which music is this:
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=me4FlewMtaI

    Tara
    that's meditation from thais

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    I remember reading something that the Protopopovs were quite disparaging about M&D's version. Something about being too athletic and not enough emotion.
    When you are up to your arse in alligators it is difficult to remember you were only meant to be draining the swamp.

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