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    Quote Originally Posted by LilJen View Post
    Was that seriously a 3A for the second jumping pass in his LP (after the 2T to open it)? It looked incredibly easy. This'll be a great program once he's comfortable with it.

    Yes, it was seriously a 3A. Loving the double-bracket entry. And I would say the 2T is definitely a marker for double the rotation

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    I love the fact that the brackets come out of an Ina Bauer Fabulous transitions in here and because he's so flexible Jason really can integrate them seemlessly rather than looking as though they're stuck on. Ok the Y-hold into the second lutz is a bit obvious but the rest are integrated really well. Loving the fan spiral into the second axel. Looking forward to seeing him do a triple from that entrance. Love the program; so much potential here!

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    It's probably too early to talk about program construction with 20 seconds missing, but, near the end, did he do a 2A in the MIDDLE of the choreo sequence? Wouldn't that freak out, I mean confuse, the technical specialists?

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    ^Jun, I was wondering the same thing. Maybe it was plunked in there for the time being and will be moved when the final 20s are tacked on?

    Geesh, the 3a out of brackets? Dude has the 3a OWNED.
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    Quote Originally Posted by misskarne View Post
    SHORT PROGRAM (Prince: The Question of U)

    3A turnout, 3F-3T, 'tano 3Lz fall (possibly e?): 74.86 (1st)

    I really, really hated this idea. As you could tell. Still don't like the music. But I remember that last year, the goal of the Prince SP was supposed to be sassy, which I always felt he never quite achieved, although he came close at the end of the season. But this? This is pure sass bordering on suggestive. Certainly not a little boy any more. Great jumps, tano Lz is good but I think maybe the tano throws off his edge a bit, because that was the worst e I've seen from him in a while. Spins are fab. The new choreo mixed with the old is fantastic.

    Costume: Remember the blue swirly shirt he wore for Liebestraume at Glacier Falls last year? He wore that shirt's green twin, which suggests to me that a new costume is in the works. Surely it can't be worse than the last one...?
    I agree completely!
    Jason maturity this year is on a different level; not to belabor the point, but in expression, a boy became a man, and it makes tremendous difference in interpreting the SP.

    I actually decided to pat myself on the back and found my post from last year after seeing Jason's SP for the first time:
    It feels like a "grow into" kind of program. It requires not only an attitude, but a certain sensuality and projection. It is the first of Jason's programs where I imagine Rohene more than Jason, though I like the choreography a great deal. Jason has lots of charisma and might grow into his material, or slightly reimagine it to be projecting himself. But the costume, IMO, has to go. It is also "too big" at this point; and the combination of required "in your face" attitude and elaborate costume somewhat drown the treasure that is Jason Brown. I hope his team adjusts a bit

    And it happened! He DOES project sensuality and "attitude" now, and it does not feel awkward. I thought repeating the SP was a mistake, and I was wrong. Love the program now.
    Also with you on the costume. Let the body language speak without the extra ruffle.

    The LP will be a stunner. ))
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    I hope the EX form of Riverdance has Jason in a kilt!

    (What a great program this is )

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jun Y View Post
    It's probably too early to talk about program construction with 20 seconds missing, but, near the end, did he do a 2A in the MIDDLE of the choreo sequence? Wouldn't that freak out, I mean confuse, the technical specialists?
    Actually, most technical specialists have already called "confirmed" for the choreo sequence by that point. I've worked with some who call it as soon as the skater hits halfway, some who've called it at about two-thirds (which seems to be where the 2A is), and a few who wait til the skater is obviously finished before confirming it.

    Quote Originally Posted by LilJen View Post
    Geesh, the 3a out of brackets? Dude has the 3a OWNED.
    Amazing change from where we were this time last year, isn't it?

    Quote Originally Posted by dinakt View Post
    And it happened! He DOES project sensuality and "attitude" now, and it does not feel awkward. I thought repeating the SP was a mistake, and I was wrong. Love the program now.
    Also with you on the costume. Let the body language speak without the extra ruffle.

    The LP will be a stunner. ))
    I wonder how much role finally getting the 3A played. Now he doesn't have to worry about it, maybe that helped.

    Quote Originally Posted by DORISPULASKI View Post
    I hope the EX form of Riverdance has Jason in a kilt!


    Wouldn't that be, er...a bit cold?

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    Quote Originally Posted by misskarne

    Wouldn't that be, er...a bit cold?
    It worked for John Kerr

    And Candeloro survived his George of the Jungle routine with even less on.

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    If Jason is an exhibitionist I guess he will survive in a kilt. The bielman would look more than a bit gross.....

    The Kerrs were well covered up in spite of the kilt.

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    I suspect Doris envisaged leggings under the kilt.

    *tapping foot impatiently* Come on Josh. Your turn to do some program reveals now...

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    Emdee, it wasn't Jason who made this suggestion, it was me. And I expect he would wear John Kerr type underclothes, and the knee socks are traditional in any case. Heck in one of those Kerr "Erin Shore" exhibitions, Sinead lifted John upside down and there was nothing untoward to be seen.

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    Yes I have seen the Kerr ex live !

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    I've always hated the music of Riverdance, but I love the choreography and construction of Jason's program. The footwork is to die for!

    Now can Josh please announce his music soon?!
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    This Riverdance program is amazing. Simply WOW. The musicality and the build up to the end is wonderful. There are transitions into every single jumping pass but the opening quad. Spins are wonderful as always. It is as exciting as Buttle's 2004 Elgar program (before he had to dial it down).

    Either I can't wait to see how this program further develops with the season, or I somehow worry he will be forced to tone down on the amazing details to ensure he can land more jumps.

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    Hmm, am I the only one who doesn't love Jason's Riverdance LP?

    Transitions are great and all, but there's just something about the music that doesn't grab me. Maybe it's the edit? I feel like the program starts too slowly, then suddenly shifts into overdrive in the last 2/3 without any change in tempo until the end. It feels like two distinct programs and not a cohesive piece with various highs and lows. It's just sloooow--now FAST!

    Or maybe it's the association I have with the music itself? The Irish stepdancing phenomena, along with the flamboyant Michael Flatley, has been parodied so badly since the mid-90s, it's difficult to take the music seriously when I hear it. But I guess that's my baggage. Still, the music doesn't scream, "Olympic LP" to me like his Liebestraum program did.

    It was obvious by the 2/3 mark Jason was getting tired. Movements were not as crisp and he was falling behind the music. I wonder if this will pose an issue later on as the season progresses.

    I know it's early, and I'm sure the program will grow on me. As of now, I feel it's a good program surely, but I'm not captivated by it by any means.

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    Heavens, this was only the first outing of a program "in process".
    I look forward to watching it develop.

    I think the "bones" are spectacular!

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    Quote Originally Posted by skatesindreams View Post
    Heavens, this was only the first outing of a program "in process".
    I look forward to watching it develop.

    I think the "bones" are spectacular!
    I do think it's noteworthy that many people, including other skaters, are already impressed with what's virtually a 2/3 of a program (since we're missing about 30 seconds of it to start with) that's obviously very very rough. I think people do see promise in this program but of course whether he can do it with full-strength with all the hard jumps including the quad and 3A-3T is yet to be seen. I have a feeling, however that the program will look quite different by the fall. He will probably put the 3F-2T and 3Z-1L-3S in the second half, like he did with his FS last year. I don't think he'll front load it like we saw at this competition.

    Something like this
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    3A-3T
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    3F-2T
    3Z-1L-3S
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    If he does the jumps, then Nationals might be a little bit more interesting.

    ETA: Can't do the 3F-3T cause he repeats the lutz and axel. Never mind....
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    Quote Originally Posted by misskarne View Post
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    Jason Brown SP - Prince

    Jason Brown LP - Riverdance
    Thank you so very much for posting the links. Loved the LP, and the SP is definitely better than it was last year.

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    Oooh, I really really really really really hope that Jason makes the Olympic team. I know it's not what he is exactly banking on and he's very young, but his programs look so good and it would be fantastic experience for him, not to mention great exposure for the next four years. Sorta like Evan Lysacek.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Spareoom View Post
    Oooh, I really really really really really hope that Jason makes the Olympic team. I know it's not what he is exactly banking on and he's very young, but his programs look so good and it would be fantastic experience for him, not to mention great exposure for the next four years. Sorta like Evan Lysacek.
    Evan was one of the favorites for the Olympic team in 2006, so I think it's a little bit of a different situation for Jason. I just want both him and Josh to have a season!
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