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    Quote Originally Posted by DickButtonFan View Post
    I'd really be mad if a professor was talking about me but at the same time it isn't fair if Yuna doesn't have to show up as often as the other students (if that's even the case).
    Apparently its a thing in Korea for athletes. But I actually think there's a strong argument that if an athlete is looking to coach her actual sport that its fine to use the normal time doing that sport is part of the credit. Lots of different college programs have similar "life experience" credit. Its hard to know.

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    “The schools think that if an athlete performs well in his or her sport, that’s the best contribution to a school’s reputation,” said Oh Jae-Keun from the public relations department at Korea National Sport University. “They think of athletes as an advertisement for the school and don’t care about teaching them.”

    Ah. So Korean Universities are a lot like American ones.

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    A important fact that some are missing:

    It was not her professor who made the remark. It was some random professor from ANOTHER university.

    With that said, I don't think it's right for an educator to criticize someone he doesn't know personally even if he was trying to make a point for the bigger picture. Given the brouhaha that was caused by his comments, it would be the right thing to apologize and retract the personal comments; something along the lines of:

    "I never meant to attack you personally, what I said about education in our country and sport athletes still applies but I shouldn't have made an example out of you since I don't even know you personally"

    There, was that so hard?

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    I feel so sad for her and her poor, pitiful life. She is old enough to grow up and address the situation with the professor instead of a law suit. She will probably win because she is soooooo important. And I use to really like her and her skating. I might still like her skating, I just haven't seen it in awhile.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kwanatic View Post
    Someone with as much success as Yu-Na shouldn't care if a teacher, who she doesn't even take class from, says she's slagging off. Who gives a crap? I honestly can't even see a judge taking this lawsuit seriously if it actually went to court. It's like a 2nd grader suing their classmate b/c they called them a poo-poo head...and agreeing not to sue if they stand on the monkey bars at the playground and apologize.
    Exactly. However, if her staff is giving her the advice, she needs to use some intelligence and not just follow the advice. This libel suit sounds silly. A time in a court needs to be used for the society, and not to raise the ego of a celebrity.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nursebetty View Post
    I feel so sad for her and her poor, pitiful life. She is old enough to grow up and address the situation with the professor instead of a law suit. She will probably win because she is soooooo important. And I use to really like her and her skating. I might still like her skating, I just haven't seen it in awhile.
    spewing venom all over a screen won't make you become more successful and beloved than she is.

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    Quote Originally Posted by boogazie View Post
    I don't think it's right for an educator to criticize someone he doesn't know personally
    You must not be in academia

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    I think she's really just seeking an apology and/or setting an example so others wont criticize her education so freely.

    I doubt this will go very far.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vash01 View Post
    Exactly. However, if her staff is giving her the advice, she needs to use some intelligence and not just follow the advice. This libel suit sounds silly. A time in a court needs to be used for the society, and not to raise the ego of a celebrity.
    Who says it's her ego? And do we actually know if she (her lawyer/agency) contacted the professor and tried to get him to retract?
    Either way, I think it's easy for us to judge because we're not in her position but a law suit might be her only way to fight back and be heard. Maybe it's a matter of principle. Celine Dion sued a French newspaper while she was pregnant pretty much for the same thing; I can't remember what it was exactly but something entirely false was reported. She sued for 100,000 dollar sum which surely was simply done because she wanted to make a statement. I even doubt she kept the money.
    Yu-Na seems to enjoy quite a status in her home country and I would think there comes a point when enough is just enough and she or anyone else of her status needs to put a halt to things before they get too far and out of control. And just because she enjoys the status doesn't mean she needs to put up with everything thrown at her. I doubt if she wasn't who she was the professor should have mentioned her name - which is the advantage we "normal" people have and why we don't need to file that kind of law suits.

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    Quote Originally Posted by martyross View Post
    spewing venom all over a screen won't make you become more successful and beloved than she is.
    I didn't see 'venom' in the post you are referring to. All I saw was a different perspective.

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    Can we please talk about the elephant in the room?! Why is rich, insanely famous, and very successful singer/skater/spokesmodel Kim taking classes to become a gym teacher? What next, nancy kerrigan working toward a manager's position at McDonald's? Or is kim skipping sochi in order to teach 7 year olds how to shoot the duck? And where exactly does one find these "public teaching trials" where apparently complete strangers can watch private students doing their coursework? I wanna know. I have a feeling Paula Abdul trying to teach a class is pretty funny.

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    Quote Originally Posted by berthesghost View Post
    where exactly does one find these "public teaching trials" where apparently complete strangers can watch private students doing their coursework? I wanna know. I have a feeling Paula Abdul trying to teach a class is pretty funny.
    That "public teaching trials" AFAIK was just one session which took about less than half an hour to avoid further interruption of her four-week teaching practicum.

    She's majoring in sports education which was her only option when admitted to the university. And at fourth-year circuit, every student in this major is required to take a practicum as one of curricula no matter the circumstances. It's just a must. Boy, things I've learned about Korean education because of this fiasco

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    Quote Originally Posted by nursebetty View Post
    I feel so sad for her and her poor, pitiful life. She is old enough to grow up and address the situation with the professor instead of a law suit. She will probably win because she is soooooo important. And I use to really like her and her skating. I might still like her skating, I just haven't seen it in awhile.
    Yes, her pitiful life is building a whole new school for kids in Africa, serving her wonderfully as one of Goodwill ambassadors for UNICEF, and will be continuing to help and take care of people in need.

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    Poor old man should have known better before criticizing her majesty.
    She will sue him to the last peny he has, and have her worshippers jump all over the pour soul.

    I dare all of you to criticize me, she says.

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    Right or wrong??? We don't know all the facts except what is printed in the newspaper.
    Let 'justice takes its course'. Now it is up to the court to decide whether the professor did defame Yuna or it was just an over-reaction on Yuna's part.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RumbleFish View Post
    Poor old man should have known better before criticizing her majesty.
    She will sue him to the last peny he has, and have her worshippers jump all over the pour soul.

    I dare all of you to criticize me, she says.
    Yeah, she can really take someone out if he/she's in her way.

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    Quote Originally Posted by l'etoile View Post
    Yeah, she can really take someone out if he/she's in her way.
    So this is the attitude that her and her worshippers are taking?
    How gracious and classy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FunnyBut View Post
    I think she's really just seeking an apology and/or setting an example so others wont criticize her education so freely.

    I doubt this will go very far.
    I agree with you, I'm on Yuna's side on this one (and I hate frivolous lawsuits).
    It's one thing that celebrities have to tolerate a higher level of criticism, but even for celebrities there's a line somewhere, and the line is that even they don't have to tolerate false information being spread about them (or criticism based on false facts).
    It's just very irresponsible to incite a lot of harsh criticism against someone without even knowing if the claims are true or not, and it's easy for us from over here to say that she should just get over it, but we're not in Yuna's shoes...
    (Also, I guess most of us here are not from South Korea, maybe in the US/Europe something like this would be an insignificant issue, but maybe in South Korea it is seen differently? I'd agree that for example in the US a counter press release would be more appropriate, but the most appropriate response in a US context may not be the most appropriate response in South Korea. Not that I claim to have any knowledge of South Korean culture, my point is just that things may work differently there.)

    The media has SO much power to make or break someone, people really should be more aware and careful about how they use this power. I'm all for setting an example that criticising someone and potentially creating a lot of negativity around them without having a clue whether the criticism has any factual basis is irresponsible. If the man had no actual knowledge about Yuna, he shouldn't have used her as an example or at least he should have made it clear that he's just speculating and not speak as if he knew things for a fact.
    If the things he said were not true, Yuna doesn't have to tolerate that at all IMO, and it's not like she's asking for the guy's head, she just wants an apology.
    Don't you find it worrying that doctors call treating you their "practice" ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by tralfamadorian View Post
    The media has SO much power to make or break someone, people really should be more aware and careful about how they use this power. I'm all for setting an example that criticising someone and potentially creating a lot of negativity around them without having a clue whether the criticism has any factual basis is irresponsible.
    I agree.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RumbleFish View Post
    Poor old man should have known better before criticizing her majesty.
    She will sue him to the last peny he has, and have her worshippers jump all over the pour soul.

    I dare all of you to criticize me, she says.
    It wasn't even a criticism...

    the problem is that the professor claimed as if it was the truth, however it became apparent that his basis came from false rumors. ATS eventually just asked for an apology but then he didn't. It's like I claimed Ms. A had a sex video because i overheard it somewhere but then it was not true after all.... but the damage has been done all over the media. So, Ms. A just wanted an apology from me but I refused.

    There's a big difference between an opinion via criticism which is fine, from a claimed based on false rumors via an opinion which is wrong.

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