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    Quote Originally Posted by skatesindreams View Post
    Why do these threads always turn into "bash-fests"?
    If you have a negative opinion of him, why read, or post in them?
    People just can't help it. It's a human nature

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    Quote Originally Posted by Marge_Simpson View Post
    Johnny makes my skin crawl. I posted this in the "NYC Ballet Fans" thread, but I'm reposting here. This is NOT appropriate attire for a ballet gala.

    http://bfanyc.com/home/photo/404451#anchor
    It's not that bad surely. When he's sitting down it'll look like a tuxedo. It's not like it's a meat dress.
    To think that fun is simple fun, while earnest things are earnest, proves all too plain that neither one thou truthfully discernest.

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    Quote Originally Posted by skatesindreams View Post
    Why do these threads always turn into "bash-fests"?
    If you have a negative opinion of him, why read, or post in them?
    If you perceive Johnny threads as bashfests and that bothers you, why do you read them? You could just read the interview and skip the posts.

    Right?

    This isn't a fan board. Anything posted here always gets a variety of opinions, both positive and negative.
    Trolling dates all the way back to 397 B.C. - People began following Plato around and would make fart noises after everything he said.

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    Prancer, my point was that almost any mention of Johnny - or his activities - degenerates into bashing.
    I hope that I'm free to express my dislike of that, here.

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    Quote Originally Posted by skatesindreams View Post
    Prancer, my point was that almost any mention of Johnny - or his activities - degenerates into bashing.
    I hope that I'm free to express my dislike of that, here.
    Of course you are. Did I say something to indicate that you weren't free to express your thoughts? But just as you are free to express your thoughts about what is posted here, so am I, and so are other posters.

    All skaters have fans and detractors. And both get to express their likes and dislikes, here.
    Trolling dates all the way back to 397 B.C. - People began following Plato around and would make fart noises after everything he said.

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    I wish that posters could remember to express their dislike/distaste in a respectful manner.
    The objects of their distaste have been known to read these posts, on occasion.

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    Quote Originally Posted by judiz View Post
    Always a laugh to count how many people say they hate Johnny yet read his interviews and take the time to comment on them.
    Quote Originally Posted by skatesindreams View Post
    Why do these threads always turn into "bash-fests"?
    If you have a negative opinion of him, why read, or post in them?
    People will spend their time reading and responding to something when the subject matter provokes some feelings in them, whether positive or negative.

    Love and hate are pretty much the same thing.
    Last edited by Ziggy; 06-10-2012 at 11:59 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ziggy View Post
    When do you think people actually spend their time to respond to something?

    When the subject matter provokes some feelings in them, whether positive or negative.

    Love and hate are pretty much the same thing.
    Exactly.

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    Quote Originally Posted by skatesindreams View Post
    The objects of their distaste have been known to read these posts, on occasion.
    And?

    If Johnny can take the worship I'm sure he can take the criticism.
    3539 and counting.

    Slightly Wounding Banana list cont: MacMadame.

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    Johnny when he gets some age on him

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quentin_Crisp

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    Quote Originally Posted by milanessa View Post
    And?

    If Johnny can take the worship I'm sure he can take the criticism.
    I am sure he thrives on both. ^^

    As long as he provokes a reaction...

    (I'd know something about that )

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    Quote Originally Posted by Iceman View Post
    Johnny when he gets some age on him
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quentin_Crisp
    Don't think Johnny would mind the comparison. Quetin was famous.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Prancer View Post
    But just as you are free to express your thoughts about what is posted here, so am I, and so are other posters.
    Very good point.

    Y'know, I wish I'd been quicker off the mark and thought of writing something like this for the Ladies Survivor Game in the Trash Can. Vagabond ripped me a new one after I voted for Kostner (just because I said Carolina didn't have a triple lutz).

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    Quote Originally Posted by skatesindreams View Post
    Prancer, my point was that almost any mention of Johnny - or his activities - degenerates into bashing.
    I hope that I'm free to express my dislike of that, here.
    Same goes for Evan, I have noticed.

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    I don't approve of bashing anyone - skaters or posters - and don't understand why some people seem to enjoy it.

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    There is a difference between criticizing and bashing. What's being commented on here are Johnny's comments and his attitude. Not all of us think he is perfect, nor do we agree with his suggestions that he should have been 3rd in Vancouver or is the "saviour" of men's figure skating in the US. We're not calling him stupid or untalented. We're simply providing our opinions on the interview and how he conducts himself in public.

    Personally, I adore his skating when he gives it his all. The public persona, not so much, and he seems to let that persona get in the way of the skating (After he won his first US Championship in 2004,I honestly expected he'd have at least one World gold and Olympic medal before the end of the decade). And that's not a bash, just an opinion.
    "Once you've skated together long enough, and you're really good friends, you can close your eyes, put your hand out and she's right there." Joe Dolkiewicz, 2011 US Novice Pairs Bronze Medalist

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    No bashing here; Johnny is a beautiful skater; I wish him joy, health, success, and the very best luck in his return to competitive skating.

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    FSU is so meeeeeeeaaaaaaan!

    Johnny is like the most persecuted skater ever on FSU, for sure.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wiery View Post
    No bashing here; Johnny is a beautiful skater; I wish him joy, health, success, and the very best luck in his return to competitive skating.
    My wish, as well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by skatesindreams View Post
    I don't approve of bashing anyone - skaters or posters - and don't understand why some people seem to enjoy it.
    You don't seem to understand the difference between 'bashing' and 'criticism'.

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