I will not be ignored! -Me
I was thinking of the fluff piece profile of Tara L. and her life post-Olympics aired during US Nationals several years ago, for Tara's own quote - not Pat's post-Nagano public meltdown about the White House and the team jacket.
Johnny could stand to learn that sometimes silence is the best thing to say for the long haul - even if it doesn't get your name in the media every second.
"Skating fans are not a patient bunch." Dragonlady
SM: Speaking of homophobia... you know how it is in Russia. Do you like it less as the result?
JW: It is painful to think people like me can't lead a normal life in Russian. It is painful to think those who speak up for them is being shut up. But what can you do? Being gay is not about being an American or a Russian or a Chinese or anything else. There is more or less the same amount of use everywhere. If I had a choice I would be heterosexual and wouldnt' suffer. It's so much easier! But I don't have a choice, nor does anyone else.
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Just because one US judge joined two other international judges and gave Kwan a first place ordinal didn't mean the USFS mistreated Tara or underscored her. To answer your question about when was the last time an American skater won the Olympics without getting the US 1st place ordinal is missing the context because when was the last time the US had two guaranteed gold medal favorites performing as well as Kwan and Lipinski did?
"Corporation, n. An ingenious device for obtaining individual profit without individual responsibility." - Ambrose Bierce
ummm ok lolbecause deep down I'm an old Russian woman myself
After laughing through Johnny's interview and slogging through the responses here:
Gosh, jeez, hard to figure what’s more entertaining, the English translation of the published Russian version of Johnny’s Q&A in which his responses were in English -- or this hugely untranslatable thread.
For those unfamiliar with Johnny threads on FSU, it might be educational, but yet again pretty frightful and time-consuming to seek out the archives and wade through several of ‘em.
And Johnny is still Johnny. Bad Boy who needs no defending from no one (pardon my ungrammatical incorrectness), devilish diva, dark knight, Fallen Angel, Phoenix rising, gay but woulda chosen hetero in THIS culture, if he'd had the choice -- so saith Johnny via English-Russian-English translation. Is a vid of the interview available, btw?
JWe is a bundle of contradictions, as is figure skating. A poster on youtube (re the recent Artistry on Ice show in China) asks the rhetorical question: "Lovely Johnny, Why are you so cute?" Who knows why? Seemingly God works in mysterious ways, His wonders to perform.
To quote you from another thread, Pink Feathers: Some of psycho’s and your comments here, had me "literally shooting hearts out of my eyes.”
To quote psycho: “Johnny took the road less traveled…”
To quote Robert Frost:
Two roads diverged in a yellow wood,
And sorry I could not travel both
And be one traveler, long I stood
And looked down one as far as I could
To where it bent in the undergrowth;
Then took the other, as just as fair,
And having perhaps the better claim,
Because it was grassy and wanted wear;
I shall be telling this with a sigh
Somewhere ages and ages hence:
Two roads diverged in a wood, and I –
I took the one less traveled by,
And that has made all the difference.
To quote Johnny: If you have to achieve something by being someone you’re not, then to me it’s not worth it.
I agree with you DickButtonFan that Johnny’s translated quote re his dream world, is a keeper!
Johnny: …Like the inside of the cloud. It's all sparkling and smells with Chanel n. 5
A few aforementioned comments of my own:
To each their own perceptions, eys. Individual viewpoints/ critiques/ comments about Johnny actually say more about the respective persons/ posters making them than they do about Johnny Weir-Voronov. To know Johnny is to love him, IMHO! His detractors tho’ are out there … gnawing at the bit! Can’t we all just get along? (Oops no, I maybe never said that last one).
Ha ha, I’m with those who are excited for the upcoming season, and I can’t wait for it to begin. Lots of interesting programs being announced. Wishing good luck to all.
Thanks BittyBug for that fascinating Bill Cunningham fashion photo essay! Re Johnny’s NYCB gala attire Johnny’s version of black tie and white tails? Ah Johnny, he has his finger on the fashion/ culture pulse, and he will always be a rebel!!! He will always be the fab guy flaunting his poker face and silly frilly handlebar streamers IN YOUR FACE. And hidden behind these rebellious displays (especially hidden from those who haven’t got a clue) is a heart so sweet and pure. But yes, Johnny’s contrary, annoying, and too cute for his own good, too. Mellow and calmer somewhat now and grown more into his own with Victor at his side? But still a bundle of contradictions with a rapier wit.
To all those who believe that Johnny wakes up in the morning thinking about what he can possibly do next to grab your attention:
To Johnny and Victor: Hugs! LOVE!
Love leaves a memory no one can steal. -- Irish saying
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Who wants to watch rich people eat pizza? They must have loved that in Bangladesh. - Randy Newman on the 2014 Oscars broadcast
La dee da, dee da .... And the beat goes on.
Comments excessively over-long, rarely short or sometimes middling from me ... rambling and indulgent or to the point, fact remains: those who don't have a clue when it comes to Johnny, clearly just don't. Stop trying to puzzle it out all ya "butthurt" critics and "non-fans" who seemingly are irresistibly attracted, coolly phlegmatic, and pissed-off at the same time. Yep contradictions abound. BTW, there are no exceptions to the viewpoints rule! Heh, heh, heh, and Johnny rules (in all his annoying cuteness, badass contrariness, and fabulous simplicity)!
Now, to misquote Shakespeare, the master of irony and contradiction:
Would love by any other name smell as sweet?
Actually, Johnny and Victor are both so cute, in a good way. Even having not a love as true, to see theirs for me is very inspiring.
To all those irresistibly unmoved non-fans, uncomfortably intrigued but critics, undeniably fascinated but pissed-off nay-sayers:
How many unfond fools serve mad jealousy?
O' how hast thou with jealousy infected
The sweetness of affiance!
O' beware ... of jealousy
It is the green-eyed monster which doth mock
Trifles light as air
Are to the jealous confirmations strong
As proofs of holy writ
You are a very odd person, aftershocks. I suppose that's true of most ubers, though.
3539 and counting.
Slightly Wounding Banana list cont: MacMadame.
Who me?! Guess it takes one to know one.
Ha ha I first read that as "old." Thanks for the compliment, btw! And same to you. Who isn't in this weird and weary world? Seems to me likely that most fs fans (and sports fans in general) are some kinda odd. And if some of us aren't old, we soon will be if we live long enough. Lots to look forward to in any case, eh?
Any comments in relation to Johnny though.......
Hi ya, antmanb! Nice try, btw.
Ah but, yes you are absolutely right about however you happen to perceive whatever. And I bet that says more about you than it does about me.
Love those iambic pentameters ... very difficult to master the art.
But as usual, stray as we might: Johnny is still Johnny, and now that He's BAAACK, I guess Johnny threads on FSU are kinda comin' back too. All and I do mean all to no one's avail me thinks. But like everything on the planet, THIS TOO SHALL PASS. And for now, could it be, could it possibly be:
. . . ISU judges . . .
. . . old Russian lady . . .
Off-season, perhaps? Uh, no I forgot, it's a Johnny thread posted in GSD 'cause it started out being an interview with the one and only, which whether a light trifle with a few zingers and stingers or not, excites all kinds of reactions even from those who profess not the slightest interest in either the subject matter or in the one and only himself. Only on FSU?
Some of us twitter twatter, while others bitter batter or pitter patter and jibber jabber ….
Ohhh, baby baby it’s a wild world
It’s hard to get by just upon a smile …
-- Cat Stevens
I've post this on the fan thread.but...seems most fans and other people prefer to this thread,so post here too....
It's a long interview from a chinese website,and I think people here may have interest on some informations in it.my english isn't good enough,so I won't translate the whole article,just some tips about figure skating.
here's the link to the entire interview:http://sports.sina.com.cn/o/2012-06-..._bid=101327229
·he didn't want to compete until he was invited to the American nations,and see the male skater's situation.he think he's still competitive,but he doesn't come back for the medals.
·he didn't get well with the American federation,but they support him very much this time.they give him 2 GPs.He think that's because they think he's good to spread figure skating in America
·his SP music if from lady gaga,and LP is Phonix.
·he and his coach have made SP and LP,just need to add some details in the summer.maybe he'll work with David Wilson on the LP,if they has time.
·he will add Quads in both of SP and LP
·he have hired Morozov to help him on step sequence
·some of the skaters show how difficult figure skating can be,but he growed under the old rules.he want to let everybody think they can skate too.he want to show "smooth" perfomance,not(the opposite)
·he won't be a coach or choreographer.he saw his coach got to the rink on 7:30 everyday through the years,wearing coat,shiver with cold.that's not what he wants.he will compete on the Olympics for the 3rd time,and then think what to do next.
·now figure skating for him is not a "life-and-death" thing.and his coach also accept that,he has husband,his own thing beside figure skating.so they get on better now.