She may have a lot more to fear than just a 17 month ban.
WADA Code To Ban Cheats From Games
However, at the time of its ruling, CAS indicated that Rule 45 could be reintroduced if it was included as part of the WADA code.
A new clause in the draft code - 10.15, Limitation on Participation in the Olympic Games - declares that in serious doping cases "as an additional sanction, the athlete or other person shall be ineligible to participate in the next Summer Olympic Games and the next Winter Olympic Games taking place after the end of the period of ineligibility otherwise imposed."
Even if this were an issue for 2018, the events as described in the ISU communication do not strike me as a "serious doping case" (that's pretty vague language; I am sure they will have to be more specific). This is why I don't like language like "drug cheats"; Galyeta made a stupid decision, and she'll be disciplined for it, but she didn't engage in any cheating.The new code is due to be approved in autumn 2013 and would come into force in 2015 in time for Rio 2016, making London 2012 the one Games at which the Merritt ruling may serve as a charter for serious cheats to return to the Olympic arena.
18 months is too much, I hope it gets reduced too
It's also highly presumptuous of countries whose official language isn't English to tell English-speakers what name to give them in English. Myanmar and Côte d'Ivoire can call themselves Myanmar and Côte d'Ivoire as much as they please, but some people are still going to call them Burma and Ivory Coast.
Deal with it.
I am just trying to explain the the writer very likely did not mean any offence - it's the grammar that might be causing difficulties.
English might not be the native language for Eislauffan, but I think (from the user name) that her first language is German and there are articles in German language, so it would be natural for her to use them in English. However, the use of the articles in her language might be different than the use of the articles in English so it can be difficult even for her to use them. (Originally I was speaking about people who don't have any articles at all in their language. For us it can be quite hit and miss when we are trying to use them. (sometimes more and sometimes less successfully).
triple_toe, I do wonder how many languages you speak if you are so critical to grammar mistakes of other people speaking by their non native language.
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I always thought it was highly presumptuous to decide that you should call a country or a people something other than what they request to be called just because it's hard for you to say the name of the country.
Pretty much only ignorant assholes will.Originally Posted by Vagabond;3584393[B
Do you honestly not see how condescending your stance is? Or are you just pulling our collective leg?
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On the other hand I don't think it's "highly presumptuous" of countries to pleasantly ask others to respect their national identity by adjusting the terminology a bit.
I think a little mutual tolerance and flexibility might be a good idea here.
(Maybe Germany should start protesting against all those different names we've got in the world. Especially since both "Germany" and the French / Spanish "Allemagne" are kind of historically incorrect. The name Germany indicates that we are the descendants of the Germanic tribes, which is only partly correct, since we have also lots of Celtic ancestors, as well as Roman and Slavic ones. And I know quite a few Germans, who feel uncomfortable with the name Germany, since Hitler played up the whole Germanic heritage angle. Plus, it's highly unoriginal, Julius Caesar used it in his writings and suddenly everyone was calling the region / people "German / Germanic". Allemagne / Alemania is quite interesting as a name, Alemanni was a union of several southern Germanic tribes between 300 and 599 A.D.. The Franks conquered "Alemanni" in 496, and funnily enough, the name somehow stuck. Oh, and the Finnish and Estonian people call us Saxons. The best name we have in the slavic countries though, they all use variations of the protoslavic němъ, which means mute / dumb - only because back in the day they couldn't understand the Germanic tribes. I mean, what's fair about that?)
The hard part is knowing what is in substances that don't clearly list their ingredient. But most of the time those kinds of substances are not things you really have to be taking as they tend to be home remedies and nutritional supplements. Any medicines will list their active ingredients and you can just look them up on the WADA list and know if you can take them or not.
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Seriously guys? I'm not being snotty, I'm simply pointing out that "The Ukraine" is considered offensive to many Ukrainians. It's an outdated term that comes off as disrespectful today. I didn't think anyone was using the term maliciously here but knowing that the term is incorrect could prevent an awkward situation in the future.
Not every person in the English-speaking world -- not even every college graduate -- is well versed in the world geography, let alone official name changes. That doesn't necessarily make those who don't know any better "ignorant assholes."
With respect to Myanmar, many people, notably Aung San Suu Kyi, prefer to use the old name, Burma, because they do not recognize the legitimacy of the regime that changed the name of the country.
With respect to Côte d'Ivoire, Gil-Galad summed up everything I would say.
With respect to Ukraine, people who were adults at the time the Soviet Union split apart grew up referring to "the Ukraine," not "Ukraine." The fact that they never "got with the program" and dropped the definite article doesn't make them ignorant assholes. Chances are, at some point, the article will drop from general use.
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Since, as you say, there is apparently "little knowledge" of it, I'm just trying to increase awareness
(Although I'll admit never knowing WHY it was "The" Ukraine in the first place. Why not "The Belarus," "The Latvia," "The Turkmenistan?" And don't get me started on "The Bronx." )
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I agree that it was really a stupid mistake for her to make, but she must suffer the consequences.
When I competed, I was always concerned about drug tests and took them very seriously, and I was nowhere near her level and was quite a bit younger than her as well.
Those who persist in using "Burma" can tell themselves they are taking some kind of a noble stance, but what they are actually doing is reinforcing the type of colonialism that went around the world changing the names of countries to suit the language they spoke.
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There are no excuses for athletes taking banned substances anymore. Doping control is not a new thing. Every elite athlete is aware of the restrictions and has to deal with this.