I don't know that the following had an impact but IMO it would be a consideration (since I come from a sugar is bad for you POV)..........I think the 80's is exactly when the obesity epedemic *started*. There are theories that this is tied to the corresponding "low fat" mantra that happened simultaneously. Sugar replaced the fat in many cases. The fat, at least, satiated your hunger, while the sugar spurs it on, possibly causing people to eat more total calories.
What would Jenny do?
I'm reading In Defense of Food by Michael Pollan. I'm in the first third, which is about the advent of nutritionism, and talks a lot about how in the 70s and 80s whole foods began to be replaced in the mind of Americans by the nutrients that were in them. Saturated fat became the Big Evil, and people were advised to eat less saturated fat as a percentage of total calories. Therefore, a lot of people started eating a lot of carbs, but rarely actually cut out the amount of fat they were eating, or replaced the fat with carbs, but lots of carbs. And, after they got rid of a prior law required imitation foods to label themselves as imitations, and after the nutrients became more important than the foods themselves, brands started marketing themselves like crazy based on those nutrients. So something totally awful for you that had some fiber - like sugary cereals - would paste TONS OF FIBER or some equivalent on their boxes, and people would feel that that gave them leave to eat a ton of that product - because they were being told to eat that nutrient, so a lot of that nutrient is good, right?
I'm trying to summarize 73 pages of stuff so far So I hope that all makes sense. But I highly recommend the book. It's my favorite Michael Pollan book so far, and the whole first third is just about what we're currently talking about - why people started getting fat in the 80s (though it sort of started in the 60s).
One of the most interesting things to me was that the very first committee appointed to figure out why rates of cardiovascular disease and diabetes were rising (in the 60s) delivered a very uncompromising, simple recommendation: eat less meat. The meat companies all went apeshit, the head of that committee was never re-elected again, and subsequently all recommendations were phrased in terms of nutrients (eat less saturated fat).
This is interesting: http://www.divinecaroline.com/22177/...on-size-vs-now
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I grew up in the 60s and there wasn't much junk food around. We had ONE McDonalds anywhere near us and we might go once a month. There was no Burger King. There were some fast foods places that weren't chains (like this great place that sold Philly Cheesesteaks) but I have more fast food restaurants just within 10 minutes of my house than we had within an hour of the house growing up.
I would say this started to change in the 70s but it really exploded starting in the 80s.
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I know this is focusing on just one item, but the bagels around here were always the larger ones. I wonder if it's location. Living in the NJ/NY/CT area, bagels are a food group .
I don't see many mcdonalds with a play area for kids anymore either. That was part of the draw for me and my friends growing up. We'd eat our kiddies meals and then play in the giant tube maze thing for awhile. Ive always been obsessed with food but I managed to stay skinny for most of my childhood by running around and playing in my neighborhood, or at the local mcdonalds. I was never allowed to play video games.
I think there were fewer chain fast food locations in my youth, but there were plenty of local pizza places and individually owned delis and bakeries with some of the most yummy cakes and donuts around. Lots of opportunity for "bad food" although it may have been different bad food.
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Maybe it is. I live in a different area of the US now, so maybe the play areas aren't a big thing here.
Kids are becoming increasingly sedentary these days though, and that's a problem.
Most "regular size" burgers these days now boast at least 1/2 pound of beef. At least.
Another link: http://moneyland.time.com/2012/03/08...-drinks-for-1/
If small fries are priced closer to the medium size, I can see how more people will buy the larger size because the difference in price is so small for so many more fries.
Also, interesting info on using the word "snack."
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The Washington Post had an article today about how the pizza industry is objecting to guidelines requiring chains to display caloric content:
I love how their coalition says that 90% of orders are taken over the phone and Internet, but they're worried most about how to fit the info on a pizza board. Like (xxxx) or (xxx) takes up a lot of space.
Phone, I could see, but they're worried about space on their web pages? It's not like they are the at the forefront of pristine web design.
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Funny thing is that with all the increases in size of supposed single portion foods, here's one that has gone down: yogurt. Single serving size yogurt used to be 8 oz. now its 6 oz. I suppose that is because people eat it as a diet food and they want to list the lower calorie count?
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