Have a few questions on host pick.
- You can only pick one skater as host pick for 3 spots you have for your competition you host?
- Do you have to choose the skater who has higher SB and/or WS even as a host pick if you have several candidates?
8 men: six with two events each (Hanyu, Kozuka, Machida, Mura, Oda, Takahashi); one host pick (Murakami); and a TBA host pick
7 men: five with two events each (Abbott, Miner, Rippon, Dornbush, Weir); one host pick (Razzano); and a TBA host pick
5 or 6 Men: one with two events (Gachinski); three with one invitation each (Menshov, Dmitriev, Voronov); one host pick (Bush); and a TBA host pick (could be Menshov, Dmitriev, Voronov or someone else)
4 or 5 men: two with two events each (Chan, Reynolds); one with one invitation (Rogozine); one host pick (Firus); and a TBA host pick (could be Rogozine or someone else)
3 men: two with two events each (Amodio, Joubert); and a TBA host pick
3 men: one with two events (Song); one host pick (Guan); and a TBA host pick
2 men with two events each (Brezina, Verner)
ITA, KAZ, ESP
one man with two events each (Contesti, Ten, Fernandez)
one man with one event (Hendrickx, Majorov)
The ISU communication even states that Jr. Worlds and JGPF medallista are guaranteed a spot. Joshua Farris fits in both.. If this was a mistake from ISU I hope there's a way for him to appeal as son as possible.
That is what I thought but I have been hearing different things,
so wanted to make sure.
Last season's GP announcement (which was also IIRC released AFTER the GP assignments were announced ) removed the language that guaranteed JGPF and JW medalists one GP spot.
From 2011-12 GP announcement:
From 2010-11 GP announcement:Medallists from the ISU World Junior Figure Skating Championships 2011 and the medallists from the ISU Junior Grand Prix of Figure Skating Final 2010/11 will be included in the selection process. Skaters/couples who have stated their intention to skate as Senior in 2011/12 might be included in the Grand Prix event(s) if they fulfil the requirements of the minimum score.
Medallists from the ISU World Junior Figure Skating Championships 2010 and the medallists from the ISU Junior Grand Prix of Figure Skating Final 2009/10 will be included in the selection process. Skaters/couples who have stated their intention to skate as Senior in 2010/11 will be guaranteed one (1) event.
How do we call this then? Press release???, whatever term you like to use, the fact is that they are publicly akwnoledging the that Jr. World medallists are assured of 1 spot.
Maybe they just copied and pasted from an old announcement LOL
This year's announcement says the same thing:
http://www2.isu.org/vsite/vnavsite/p...0.html?id=1066Medalists from the ISU World Junior Figure Skating Championships and the ISU Junior Grand Prix of Figure Skating Final are guaranteed one spot. In order for a skater/couple to be eligible to compete at a Grand Prix event, a minimum score must have been achieved.
ETA: IIRC, in the past, skaters who earned medals at both competitions received two berths, since each medal guaranteed them one berth.
I found a similar Grand Prix press release from last season here:
The 2011-12 press release did not contain the JGPF/JW medalist guarantee that the 2012-13 press release states. I guess we'll have to wait for the ISU to issue the 2012-13 GP announcement (PDF document) to know what is going on...
Even if the rule about JGPF and JW medalists being guaranteed 1 event was removed, Josh is still number 20 on the most recently updated SB list which alone guarantees (or should have) him 1 event. Not getting 2 events I could understand, there were no promises about that, but either this is some kind of tactical error or USFS forgot to submit his name for selection or persuaded his coaches into having him stay on the JGP another season without him knowing. If he really wants to compete on the senior GP, he should make an appeal to the ISU outlining what I said above. There's even a chance he could get 2 assignments if USFS were to give him SA, and honestly, he's probably the skater most deserving of that spot if he tries to get this sorted out and turns down the JGP.
I think the US federation blocked the request from Joshua. Their reason might be 2 JG assignments is better than 1 SG assignment. Moreover, if the proposed rule change is passed, once you enter into the SG circuit, you cannot go back to JW anymore.
I am concerned that Canada's #4 man, Elladj Balde, is not listed for any GP. He could be given the one TBA at Skate Canada but surely he deserves an assignment in light of his placement at Cdn Nats.
just came back from a month of remote vacation
holy cow, I am happy for Miki's return
weak entries for NHK trophy
and Julia will be competing amonst all the big girls in France and China. good luck Julia
and Shelepen getting only 1 assignment
I hope she gets the host pick so she can get 2 or to Polina K.
Last edited by love_skate2011; 05-22-2012 at 08:47 AM.
For the alternates list, last year's rules (v.1) state that all of the skaters in the Top 24 SB and WS guaranteed one who got only one in the initial selection have to get two before anyone in the Top 75 get selected for non-host picks, although there's no obligation to choose them.
I'm not sure who is affected here: Lipnitskaia, Shelepen, Korobeynikova, Sotnikova, Gold, and Sinitsina/Zhiganshin all were Top 24 SB and would have been guaranteed one without taking JGPF/JW medals into consideration, with Sui/Han guaranteed two from their Worlds result. All of the rest weren't submitted for senior GP.
Last year, without the medal guarantee, Monko/Khaliavin got two in the initial selection, and neither of them (USA, CHN) were host picks.
This year, of the 12 Ladies who were Top 24, but not Top 12 at Worlds,
Five got two: Lipnitskaia, Tukhtamysheva, C. Zhang, Gold, Sotnikova (1 host)
Seven got one: Czisny, Nagasu, Korpi, Biryukova, Korobeynikova, Shelepen, Li.
Gold doesn't have a host pick, and she didn't medal at JGPF, so I don't think the number of spots is tied to the number of JGPF/JW medals.
I thought there might be a pattern where skaters in Top 24 SB and Top 24 WS got two over skaters with one but not the other, except where a skater got a host pick and a second, but I'm not seeing that: Korpi, for example, is ranked 5th in WS and 14th in SB. Nagasu is 13th in WS and 11th in SB. Zhang isn't in Top 24 WS.
On a different note, skaters are tweeting left and right about how thrilled they are with their picks. As expected, no one has yet tweeted "I hate [list event]. My selections sux."
But I thought Alex Shibutani's was worth posting:
Now I know why @rossminer wanted to call it a day at 8:30 last night. He wanted to check GP assignments at 2am.
The piece is seventy-five minutes long...[l]ong enough for an idea to be developed, but not so long that one starts to measure the number of seats to the exits with desperation if the thing doesn’t work" -- Marina Harss