View Poll Results: Who does the 3lutz jump best?

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  • Midori Ito

    34 12.23%
  • Tonya Harding

    54 19.42%
  • Irina Slutskaya

    13 4.68%
  • Viktoria Volchkova

    21 7.55%
  • Julia Sebestyen

    30 10.79%
  • Oksana Baiul

    5 1.80%
  • Yuna Kim

    67 24.10%
  • Emily Hughes

    3 1.08%
  • Agnes Zawadzki

    7 2.52%
  • Gracie Gold

    11 3.96%
  • Miki Ando

    8 2.88%
  • Other

    25 8.99%
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    Best 3lutz by a lady

    The lutz is the second most difficult triple jump and, in the case of most ladies, often the most difficult one we see in their programs. Who did it best? Explain why, and feel free to post examples other than the ones I've listed.

    Midori Ito http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fDcctP-KVXo#t=0m30s

    Tonya Harding www.youtube.com/watch?v=k5_7Iu82gi8#t=2m14s

    Irina Slutskaya http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BbK7zlfJAIE#t=1m0s

    Viktoria Volchkova http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_pbZs...elated#t=1m15s

    Julia Sebestyen http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8fkrR...fvwrel#t=1m40s

    Oksana Baiul http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p_fvrG3f0fI#t=0m40s

    Yuna Kim http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9JQOoGF8WfY

    Emily Hughes http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7MYJm...elated#t=1m26s

    Agnes Zawadzki http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=snlPIaXKcSw#t=1m02s

    Gracie Gold http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=enfbO9TTbU8#t=2m11s

    Miki Ando http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AR8QRfAWOtc#t=02m47s

    Honorable mentions: Denise Biellmann (first ever!), Shizuka Arakawa, Vanessa Gusmeroli, Nancy Kerrigan, Lu Chen, Anna Rechnio (though her edge goes a bit flat), Joannie Rochette, Carolina Kostner, Maria Butyrskaya

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    All of the ladies in the poll have BO edge, IMO, with the only possible exceptions being Slutskaya and Ito, who tend to roll inwards to some degree.

    For me, it's a toss up between Volchkova, Sebestyen, and Harding. I went with Harding, who tends to have a bit more speed in and out.
    Last edited by Triple Butz; 05-09-2012 at 07:03 PM.

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    Yebin Mok (2002 US Nationals FS): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5h7ZaHKpFMk
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    I remember whenever Sebestyen was competing I would watch for her Lutz. It was huge! I used to enjoy Volchkova's and Arakawa's skating as well. Arakawa eventually rose to the top, but sadly Volchkova never did.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sylvia View Post
    Yebin Mok (2002 US Nationals FS): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5h7ZaHKpFMk
    She deserves an honorable mention for sure! Not sure how I overlooked her, but I was always impressed how she managed to do such huge powerful jumps and make them work with soft delicate sections in the music.

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    I think VV's lutz was fabulous. I do think Joannie should have been on the list
    DH - and that's just my opinion

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    Tough call, but I went with VV as well with Sebastyen a close 2nd. Midori always had great height and strength in her jumps, but her wrapped free leg always bothered me.

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    The name that immediately came to mind when I saw the title of this thread was Volchkova. Sebestyen had a beautiful lutz as well.
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    Tatiana Malinina should have been included in the list, in my opinion.

    Also, the most gorgeous 3Lutz I may have ever seen belongs to Maria Butyrskaya, in this performance:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2PtnM_rDeJY#t=46s

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tony Wheeler View Post
    Tatiana Malinina should have been included in the list, in my opinion.

    Also, the most gorgeous 3Lutz I may have ever seen belongs to Maria Butyrskaya, in this performance:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2PtnM_rDeJY#t=46s
    That's the problem with only having 12 options

    Another lady with a huge lutz at the same competition from the above link:
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FWxeqEPrPek#t=0m56s

    And Tatiana did have a great lutz as well:
    www.youtube.com/watch?v=QeEg4ab7Wu0#t=0m40s

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    Volchkova
    Butyrskaya
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    Slutskaya
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    Malinina was my first thought also.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QeEg4...tailpage#t=40s

    (ETA: Whoops, now I see this exact link was just posted).

    The others were really great too, thanks for posting.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RFOS View Post
    Malinina was my first thought also.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QeEg4...tailpage#t=40s

    (ETA: Whoops, now I see this exact link was just posted).

    The others were really great too, thanks for posting.
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    Easy. Harding.

    However, Liz Manley deserves to be in the poll.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bardtoob View Post
    Easy. Harding.

    However, Liz Manley deserves to be in the poll.
    I thought about Manley, but I've hardly never seen her land a lutz with a strong edge on the landing.

    ETA: Oops
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hV179v0zjkM#t=0m40s

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    Malinina, Butyrskaya, Volchkova and Kerrigan all impressed me.
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    Nancy Kerrigan. Textbook outside edge triple lutz.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5v6qwtKRKeM Note the jump and commentary starting at 4:56 and especially the DEEP outside edge going into the jump. Slo-mo replay at 7:53.
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    Kim or Ando

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    Can't decide between Volchkova and Harding. Also love Butyrskaya's and Ito's.

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    From the videos you posted, Harding is the best. The speed and flow coming out is amazing, not to mention the height and spring
    For me Arakawa had the softest landing of them all and looking back, you wonder what unfulfilled talent was Volchkova
    Kim's are great too and spectacular with the speed she skates too and Chen's were super elegant

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yazmeen View Post
    Nancy Kerrigan. Textbook outside edge triple lutz.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5v6qwtKRKeM Note the jump and commentary starting at 4:56 and especially the DEEP outside edge going into the jump. Slo-mo replay at 7:53.
    Kerrigan's lutz - when it worked - was always a thing of beauty, as were all her jumps actually (again when they were landed ) The one you linked to is just incredible. Tough but it's hard to deny the sheer brilliance of Harding's lutz. They still make me go

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