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    Quote Originally Posted by misskarne View Post
    This was posted over in the Russia thread:

    Artur Gachinski's new LP (I'm not certain about the music?)

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=smhumcONIm4
    Beethoven's 5 Secrets, OneRepublic (same music as Davis and Ladwig)

    There's something about his step sequences in every program that I just CANNOT stand. Many skaters do frantic footwork that doesn't match the music and it doesn't bother me too much, but with him it really rubs me the wrong way. Only other skaters I had similar dislike for their step sequences were Lysacek and Plushenko. A slow, refined and elegant footwork sequence will go a long way for Gachinski

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    Liza Tuktamysheva's David Wilson programs:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y4fv9o3M8oo - SP "Story of Love"

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1AfqjlfEilA - LP "Dark Eyes"

    If she keeps one of these instead of going with the Tom Dickson programs, I much prefer the SP.

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    Quote Originally Posted by morqet View Post
    Liza Tuktamysheva's David Wilson programs:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y4fv9o3M8oo - SP "Story of Love"

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1AfqjlfEilA - LP "Dark Eyes"

    If she keeps one of these instead of going with the Tom Dickson programs, I much prefer the SP.
    This SP is actually Dickson's program, not "Love story" SP choreographed by Wilson

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    Quote Originally Posted by morqet View Post
    Liza Tuktamysheva's David Wilson programs:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y4fv9o3M8oo - SP "Story of Love"

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1AfqjlfEilA - LP "Dark Eyes"

    If she keeps one of these instead of going with the Tom Dickson programs, I much prefer the SP.
    She didnt skate Wilson's sp in the gala, wilson sp uses the classic music piece of lovestory, does anyone know this music of the sp posted on Youtube?

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    Quote Originally Posted by senorita View Post
    She didnt skate Wilson's sp in the gala, wilson sp uses the classic music piece of lovestory, does anyone know this music of the sp posted on Youtube?
    sounds like an instrumental version of 'the summer knows' to me. i'm surprised the video has so many 'dislikes' already. i feel i must watch it quite a bit more to form a firm impression.

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    While unsure who exactly choreographed those pieces, I LOVE THEM! Transitions are just so amazing in between and it really shows that Liza is taking them very seriously!

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    Quote Originally Posted by senorita View Post
    does anyone know this music of the sp posted on Youtube?
    Quote Originally Posted by skfan View Post
    sounds like an instrumental version of 'the summer knows' to me.
    It's "The Summer of '42" composed by Michel Legrand.
    Last edited by Sylvia; 07-05-2012 at 06:06 PM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sylvia View Post
    It's "The Summer of '42" composed by Michel Legrand.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SeXyAjj_h2o

    i could live with (some variant of) this becoming skating music warhorse

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    She's also taken seriously the criticism that her ice coverage was limited, and she's moving a lot around the ice a lot.
    "The team doesn't get automatic capacity because management is mad" -- Greg Smith, agile guy

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    Quote Originally Posted by morqet View Post
    Liza Tuktamysheva's David Wilson programs:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y4fv9o3M8oo - SP "Story of Love"

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1AfqjlfEilA - LP "Dark Eyes"

    If she keeps one of these instead of going with the Tom Dickson programs, I much prefer the SP.
    Well, I must say those are both vast improvements over what she had last year. They have a higher level of maturity and that will go over well with the judges, especially when she pairs that maturity with her performance energy and sparkle. The SP is slower and I didn't think she could pull it off, but the style suits her nicely. I hoped she was more than just an up-tempo kind of skater and this is her season to prove she is.

    It looks like she's using the ice a little better as well. That tight circle around the center of the ice she used to skate has been widened a bit, but I'd still like to see her extend the circle of the footwork wider and really utilize the full surface of the ice. Still, much improved from last season.

    The layback in the SP was still weak but that initial position was actually an improvement over the ugly twist/jagged angled leg thingy she called a layback spin last season. I'm assuming she'll be going for more than a level 0 or 1 on that element and will add to it later. Altogether, her spins are still a weak point for her, but the summer isn't over yet. Hopefully she'll continue to work.

    I'm encouraged by what I've seen. If Liza T can bring out her inner artist and pair that with her killer jumps, she's going to be very tough to beat...

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    Tom Dickson again for Gachinsky ?

    I like it ,so far. I think when he gets the timing on all the little details and accents worked out it should be really effective. ( and I hope he keeps them in )

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    Quote Originally Posted by morqet View Post
    Liza Tuktamysheva's David Wilson programs:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y4fv9o3M8oo - SP "Story of Love"

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1AfqjlfEilA - LP "Dark Eyes"

    If she keeps one of these instead of going with the Tom Dickson programs, I much prefer the SP.
    the SP looks promising but she needs to dump the LP ( meh: " Dark Eyes " )
    maybe Dickson has better choices for her, didn't Tukt mention she would do a gypsy music ( upbeat) in LP ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by misskarne View Post
    This was posted over in the Russia thread:

    Artur Gachinski's new LP (I'm not certain about the music?)

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=smhumcONIm4

    Bear in mind that he only finished learning the choreo for it that day, apparently. I think it's a little slow, but it might get faster as he becomes more comfortable with the program.
    I'm actually really liking the look of this. It's a drastic improvement over the choreography he's had in the past. I think this could turn out to be a breakthrough program for him heading into Sochi. Very smart.

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    ^i think this program is the one that will make people to stop calling him mini plush. His sp is also a great depart from the usual stuff.

    Liza works her spins and ss a lot, during Italy camp she stayed on the ice the mOst of all and tried variation after variation. I believe she wili show a new face, she said she doesn't Want to stand out as junior this year.
    The gipsy lp she meant is dark eyes , by Wilson choreo.

    Dickson mAde a great sp( the YouTube One) but I saw lovestory sp by Wilson and I liked it more, the sequence is a killer.
    Last edited by senorita; 07-05-2012 at 09:21 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by senorita View Post
    The gipsy lp she meant is dark eyes , by Wilson choreo.
    but she mentioned her lp will be upbeat and this is hardly upbeat
    any idea Dickson also arranged a gypsy music lp for her ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by senorita View Post
    ^i think this program is the one that will make people to stop calling him mini plush

    Liza works her spins and ss a lot, during Italy camp she stayed on the ice the mOst of all and tried variation after variation. I believe she wili show a new face, she said she doesn't Want to stand out as junior this year.
    The gipsy lp she meant is dark eyes , by Wilson choreo.

    Dickson mAde a great sp( the YouTube One) but I saw lovestory sp by Wilson and I liked it more, the sequence is a killer.

    Let's hope it shows. Her her ice coverage was quite bad last year. Her spins ranged from mediocre to terrible, so hopefully she's working on that as well. And her posture too. She needs to work on relaxing her shoulders when she skates...

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    I think her spins are very fast, in the camp at least but I don't expect het suddenly to have the layback of Alissa ..she has some new positions of her head and arms..

    I didn't see any lp of Dickson for Liza, but I didn't went many times and there are two more camps. I saw the sp only on the making

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    Quote Originally Posted by morqet View Post
    Liza Tuktamysheva's David Wilson programs:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y4fv9o3M8oo - SP "Story of Love"
    the music is really nice, reminded me of something and then i learn it's by the great Lagrande, composer of Yentl and Umbrellas of Cherbourg. i've been liking Dickson's taste very much, voidy and uber romantic and a little narcissist. figure skating needs this man !
    Liza T. is certainly capable of doing romantic, she has personality, i think she has the acting ability of a Kwan and a Kim, while the beautiful Sotnikova is abstract, more lines and ballet, which is equally great. These two Russians can give something good to the sport, but they'll have to be very strong mentally.
    so people expect this little Liza to blow them away artistically in a summer camp video, but let's be rational especially in the future, pre-Olympic nerves are harsh on anyone. for now, brava Liza and keep up with the good (hard) work.

    p.s. the ending pose is great, love it!
    p.p.s. good that David Wilson did the other Love story, but i find that music as saccharine as chocolate candy commercial for S. Valentine, Brrr! i hope Liza likes this one better because i don't like the other music !
    Last edited by martyross; 07-05-2012 at 10:34 PM.

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    I like what I see. Liza's definitely made improvements in her ice coverage. The video is from far away, so it's hard to tell, but I think the programs look promising.

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    Quote Originally Posted by love_skate2011 View Post
    the SP looks promising but she needs to dump the LP ( meh: " Dark Eyes " ) .....:
    Well, at least she'll get to keep the gold loop earrings for this gypsy number.

    I hate to see such beautiful and talented skaters stoop to such mediocrity. BO-ring! At least it's not POTO or Otonal.

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