He was the one man in Vancouver who did two quad triples. They had no value but he did them.
The problem was not stamina or lack of a double toe or loop. It was that quad triples weren't worth anything.
Last edited by caseyedwards; 04-30-2012 at 07:13 PM.
In Vancouver Evan got 11.40 for his triple lutz combination, so he gathered more technical points from spins and footwork plus from jumps in the bonus area. Plushenko jumped all his big jumps = quad combination, triple axel and triple axel in the beginning of his programme.
Last edited by Jaana; 04-30-2012 at 07:59 PM.
If he didn't do those maybe he would have had more energy for backloading and more for spins and steps for GOE. So if you start fiddling with Plushenkos programs the best thing would have been to remove the quads and just have him skate a program like Lysacek or Chan or Takahashi without a quad.
Well they wrongly thought going further than anyone else in Vancouver by combining quad triples and triple axels etc would more than compensate for not doing a three jump combo. Using all available combo opportunities just not doing a 3 jump one. It had worked in ISU comeptitions -COR and Euros. Plushenko won 63 to 62 on jumps. He got close to no GOE on any jumps or spins or steps. Obviously using so much energy on the 4/3 was a huge error both in the SP and LP under COP at that time. They should have maxed out jump difficulty without going to quad and just left it out. That's what 99% of the men in Vancouver did. There were 4 quads in the SP and 7 in the LP? Now you get that number in the top 3 at worlds not 25 people at the Olympics. Everyone was smart except for him really in many ways.
another rehash of Vancouver
more clueless crap from casey edwards about quads
Anyway I saw an interview today as I was ready to abandon the Pasquale choreo thing, Plush says they started making the sp, and he is excited and he wants Camerlego to choreo his Lp also, they will meet in the Spain Mishin Camp to continue their work together.
I will be very curious to see what music IS chosen. Camerlengo has had some very successful programs, but it is also quite painfully obvious that he poaches and recycles music from skaters competing against his own. Hopefully the heightened profile of his work will make him less susceptible to descending to such low blow maneuvers.
This may sound sacreligious - but I've always thought he'd be able to do something really great with the Gladiator score, or another of Hans Zimmer's scores. However, there is an obvious issue there...
The music will OBVIOUSLY be an overused piece arranged by Edvin Marton.
Article/interview with Pasquale Camerlengo about working with Plushenko and Mishin in St. Petersburg: http://web.icenetwork.com/news/artic...&vkey=ice_news
"Randy [Starkman (1960-April 16, 2012)] lived by the same motto as the rest of us. The Olympics isn’t every four years, it’s every single day. He just got it." --Canadian Olympic kayaker Adam van Koeverden
Don't think he likes what Mishin does with choreographers. Giving them ideas that they refine. It was the norm for Plushenko to do quad triple double. Then he came back (2010) and didn't do any three jump combo at all. But in 2012 there was 3-2-2. So obviously he is going to maximize jump opportunities and not leave out 3 jump combo like he did all 2009-2010. So he really already learned that before Camerlengo and him talked about it! It's not like anyone else did a quad -triple though-he thought he could trade three jump combo for something nobody else was doing.
In Vancouver the skaters who got 2 5.00 in SP transitions were 1st and 21st. So that had to be discussed. Obviously in between 1st and 21st were 5.75 and 5.50 and I think I saw some 4's but 1st and 21st share two 5.00.
Last edited by caseyedwards; 05-26-2012 at 12:32 AM.