The thread of the ice dance good old days

[Loves_Shizuka]

Practice vids of Grishuk & Platov would definitely be interesting. They had a lot of fights during practice. I even heard rumours of yelling, screaming, face spitting, and even hitting. I have no idea if that's even remotely true though.

I confess, I love it

[Johnny_Fever]

That's a stunning FD but their sloppy skating skills really ruin it IMO.

Sloopy? Well, whatever it is the Duchesnays supposedly lack, I can live without it.

[martyross]

This is definitely one of the greatest OD's of all time. Such close positions and intricate steps.

Practice vids of Grishuk & Platov would definitely be interesting. They had a lot of fights during practice. I even heard rumours of yelling, screaming, face spitting, and even hitting. I have no idea if that's even remotely true though.

I'm sure the yelling part is still present in many rinks
after all this people are born competitors so can you imagine the adrenaline inside the couple? i've heard of a soccher player who got his leg broken in a match but kept running for almost one hour. he was so driven that he wasn't even feeling the pain. yea, it must be the adrenaline. who knows, maybe it's the same when a skater falls badly but immediately gets up and keeps jumping and spinning.

[martyross]

Yeah, there are exceptions like Zlobina & Sitnikov's FD

in this magnificent FD there is a move from "Four seasons"

[aliceanne]

Sloopy? Well, whatever it is the Duchesnays supposedly lack, I can live without it.

Me too.

[blue_idealist]

I don't remember much from 1992, but my favourites from 1998:

Krylova/Ovsiannikov - Carmen
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cphQkdw4fmw

Bourne/Kraatz - Riverdance
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HyzuksE2qNA

[martyross]

Krylova/Ovsiannikov - Carmen
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cphQkdw4fmw

cruel rendition of Carmen, full of the dionisiacus that Nietzsche admired in the opera.

[Aussie Willy]

I'm probably in the minority but I absolutely love this FD (Grishuk & Platov at the 1992 Olympics). It's so tightly choreographed.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BRlNzp_V35A

It was so much more difficult than either the Duchesnays or Usova & Zhulin's programs. I personally would've given them the silver medal, especially since their OD was also a lot more difficult than said couples and Oksana Grishuk could actually do her choctaws (sp?) properly in the blues CD, something that Isabelle Duchesnay or Maia Usova couldn't do.

I liked that FD too. Looking at it again it was really quite intricate and full of detail. I like the costume but the black leggings do make her feet look quite big and probably hinders the leg line. But it is still a very clever program and they worked really well with the music.

[Loves_Shizuka]

Some Torvill/Dean love from a Brit who basically got into skating because of em:

Barnum

Paso Doble

94 OD Historia de Amour

aaaand...

Rahkamo/Kokko 95 OD One of my faves ever.

Duchesnay's 88 FD

[DORISPULASKI]

AHH R&K's Borsalino--the program that spawned the Finnstep CD.

I also liked both version of the polka they did

The drunken sailor YP they skated at Skate America and the Lapland polka they used the rest of the year.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n2ebP...eature=related

Pretty much anything they did was amazing.

I loved their La Strada FD
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KopcVIyZe_w

[matti]

It's like 1997 again and am listing these performances at FSW...

R&K Red Moon FD
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZRA5O4b06Hk

R&K Blondie&Dagwood* FD (*original title)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FwcnuC20m6U

R&K Valse triste FD
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rk2LqLNPelc

Every move and gesture had a meaning. I guess I could have posted this in the "Versatile skaters" thread.

[Katarzyna]

This is a great thread!

The early 90-ies probably were the only time when I enjoyed ice dancing the most, while I usually don't care for it so much. Some of U/Z & K/P programmes give me goose pimples till today, the purity of the Bach programme in particular. To me it’s just one of the very best. I was so happy when the won with all the discussion on D/D in the years before.
Personally I think D/D were pretty much politically pushed to break Russian dominance.

Thank you all for posting the links and bringing back the memories.

And here ist the year when I saw G/P for the first time:
http://www.myvido1.com/gVUpVWkpnRCFW...atov-exhttp://

It's their exhibition number, but Sirtaki was also teir LP that time. Fell in love with them that time (and my particular love was devoted to Evgenij Platov ).

[gk_891]

I also love this FD from Grishuk & Platov from 1993. I personally liked it a lot better than Usova & Zhulin's FD as it was a lot more difficult. But one of the lifts seemed to be illegal (Platov's arm clearly above his shoulder). And the judges seemed to be tepid on this material.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RKHVq...feature=relmfu

[nuge]

You pay your dues in ice dancing work your way up gradually one step at a time unless you're russian

See how the scores were up before they even left the ice

Takes an age these days

[skatesindreams]

Judy Blumberg and Michael Seibert

1982 Nationals - the program was 2 weeks old!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z40wtId_A-M

1982 Worlds
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2FFklij8fO0

1984 Winter Olympics - Original Set Pattern
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kLYZUdgh3rs

1984 Winter Olympics - FD
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cyfosI-IcYY
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N6KQizw70JE

I don't often think that anyone "was robbed".
However, I think they really were at the Olympics.
I've always thought of them as the rightful "OSM" 's.

They were innovative, like Torvill and Dean, without imitating them.
Torvill and Dean regarded them as worthy competition,.
High praise, indeed.

[gk_891]

Judy Blumberg and Michael Seibert

1982 Nationals - the program was 2 weeks old!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z40wtId_A-M

1982 Worlds
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2FFklij8fO0

1984 Winter Olympics - Original Set Pattern
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kLYZUdgh3rs

1984 Winter Olympics - FD
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cyfosI-IcYY
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N6KQizw70JE

I don't often think that anyone "was robbed".
However, I think they really were at the Olympics.
I've always thought of them as the rightful "OSM" 's.

They were innovative, like Torvill and Dean, without imitating them.
Torvill and Dean regarded them as worthy competition,.
High praise, indeed.

I agree that they should've been 2nd at the 1984 Olympics but also at the 1983 Worlds as well.

[skatesindreams]

Here's their 1983 FD - a re-vamping of their 1982 program.

Blumberg & Seibert (USA) - 1983 Worlds FD
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F4dKhA6M_EE

[Lynn226]

http://www.bing.com/videos/search?q=...ail&FORM=VIRE2


My favorite Grishuk & Platov exhibition. Nagano Olympics - You'll See.

[zotza]

I also love this FD from Grishuk & Platov from 1993. I personally liked it a lot better than Usova & Zhulin's FD as it was a lot more difficult. But one of the lifts seemed to be illegal (Platov's arm clearly above his shoulder). And the judges seemed to be tepid on this material.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RKHVq...feature=relmfu

Again,agree.St James Infirmary was as dark as blues can get.I'd have it at first back then.And I was so angry when it almost cost them the 2nd place at Worlds.I still can't believe that Krylova/Fedorov were so promoted that season.
I remember our commentator saying that some judges,and commentators thought it was too much on the dark side,too sexy,too wild.I always thought that the part where he's trying to straggle her was so genuine

My favourite FD from that period remains K/P Bach FD.But I think that we had so many good programs because the groups used "real" choreographers with fresh ideas for ice dancing standards.
And my absolute favourite competition is still 1990 Europeans.My fair lady,Missing,U/Z Tango, Zorba the Greek (opa!) and R/K Tango.And the first time I watched ice dancing and got hooked.

[nuge]

[My favorite Grishuk & Platov exhibition. Nagano Olympics - You'll See.[/QUOTE]

Ooooh yes! What a diva

You tell me what ice dancer at the moment has that much presence ?