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    Quote Originally Posted by overedge View Post
    Which is why I said "as far as I know".
    Well now you know better.
    To think that fun is simple fun, while earnest things are earnest, proves all too plain that neither one thou truthfully discernest.

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    Quote Originally Posted by seabm7 View Post
    Wow, you have a very long list of reasoning. Well, I do not know much on flexibility, but I think one cannot use Arakawa as a proof.

    I heard that two of her spine bones are shaped irregular, which allows the extreme flexibility. Her Ina Bauer is a unique case. That cannot be replicated or generalized to other skaters' situation.
    I am sure many skaters can achieve that position if they want to, just look at Zhang's pearl spin--that's just crazy and awesome. IMO, Arakawa's Ina has to do with core strength as much as it does with flexibility. She not only has to achieve this position but hold it steady while she glides with her feet in sort of a 4th position--that's a feat of strength too. I would think she has abs of steel.
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    Zahra Lari is pretty much the face of women’s figure-skating in the UAE at the moment. By no means a traditional sport in the country, she was the only female from the region to compete at the recent European Criterium Cup in Budapest, Hungary, where she took first place in the Interpretative C category in the 24th Sportland Trophy.

    Indeed, she turned heads last year by being the first female figure-skater to enter an international competition wearing a hijab.

    The 18-year-old is currently being coached at Zayed Sports City (ZSC) by Romanian Andreea Tuliga, who is also overseeing the development of other girls as young as four. Lari didn’t take up the sport until she was 12, but she is determined to make up for lost time.
    New Q&A with Zahra Lari (June 27, 2013): http://www.sport360.com/other-sports...n-ice-princess

    Videos of her skating and being interviewed:
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JOVqh96PeQs
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vQaFwaQb0Ns
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VBqp0xcUIU8

    SPORTLAND TROPHY, Budapest, Hungary
    06-10. February 2013
    International Figure Skating Competition
    http://sportorszag.hu/index.php?page...&pw=9&lang=eng
    Lari (spelled Lary in the results) won the Interpretative C event and finished 16th in Junior Ladies, 14th in FS landing a few clean doubles through Lz: http://sportorszag.hu/downloads/trop..._FS_Scores.pdf
    Last edited by Sylvia; 07-04-2013 at 05:20 PM.
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    Very cool, thanks Sylvia!

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    Interesting, thank you. Her English is really good. In the article, the author (obviously having no knowledge of figure skating) states that Zahra Lari "is the process of becoming a member of the International Skating Union (ISU). To compete in the Olympics or other major events, one must be a member of this. Her application is pending approval".
    I wonder if he really means that she is trying to compete on the behalf of the ISU (as UAE is not an ISU member) or if UAE has applied for ISU membership.

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    This is the most recent competition video I found (uploaded in May) of Zahra Lari - UAE Figure Skating Championship 2013: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kq2AcPZIH6U
    She landed all the doubles besides flip and had a creditable 2A attempt.

    Quote Originally Posted by Eislauffan View Post
    I wonder if he really means that she is trying to compete on the behalf of the ISU (as UAE is not an ISU member) or if UAE has applied for ISU membership.
    I was wondering that, too. I recall posting a link on this topic in a related thread earlier this year ("Skating in Dubai or not")... will go look for it. ETA the link: http://www.fsuniverse.net/forum/show...=1#post3910048
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ziggy View Post
    That is great news!

    Theoretically a hijab should not be allowed in ISU competitions though, given it's a prop isn't it (being detachable)?

    Skaters never cover their heads and only used hats and similar when they were explicitly allowed to do so given the Short Dance theme.

    I imagine (and hope) that no referee would actually enforce that rule against a girl who chose to skate in a hijab, though.
    I don't see this as a prop. It's a part of her costume, like someone wearing a flower or a bow in her hair. It's a lovely costume, based on a picture posted in this thread.

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    She has good air awareness on her jumps. Hopefully someone can fix her spins, but there's definite potential there. Any chance she could go and train abroad for part of the year?

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    What exciting new entry for the figure skating. Just came back from Dubai recently, it is one untapped part of the world where the world of figure skating can really seek new nourishment from. A world where tradition meet modernity; money, wealth, talent, a country who sought to have the bests of everything and have no problem paying for it. Potentially great for the the sport economically and culturally, as well maybe putting the issues of females in sports more forward looking in UAE.

    If she is even a moderate success, i see new skating shows in the future in new region. Lots of new rich untapped resources there? Thought it was cute she mentioned the film Ice Princess... there should be more movies or maybe a documentary made about figure skating. You just never know who else could be watching and may inspire them to take up the sport.

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    Seems that the United Arab Emirates is now a provisional member of the ISU.

    http://www2.isu.org/vsite/vcontent/p...m-item,00.html

    Zahra Lari is competing in the Andorra Open this weekend.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Eislauffan View Post
    Interesting, thank you. Her English is really good. In the article, the author (obviously having no knowledge of figure skating) states that Zahra Lari "is the process of becoming a member of the International Skating Union (ISU). To compete in the Olympics or other major events, one must be a member of this. Her application is pending approval".
    I wonder if he really means that she is trying to compete on the behalf of the ISU (as UAE is not an ISU member) or if UAE has applied for ISU membership.
    Since there is no ice skating presence in UAE, maybe Zahra is the federation. Does anyone know how you would go about creating a skate federation?

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    Quote Originally Posted by allezfred View Post
    Seems that the United Arab Emirates is now a provisional member of the ISU.

    http://www2.isu.org/vsite/vcontent/p...m-item,00.html
    Smart move, ISU. $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$

    Quote Originally Posted by leafygreens View Post
    anyone know how you would go about creating a skate federation?
    Criteria are published in the ISU rules. ETA: http://www.isu.org/vsite/vfile/page/...-0-file,00.pdf (Membership section starts on page 15)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sylvia View Post
    Smart move, ISU. $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
    Well, at least until the oil runs out in any case.

    Going to a figure skating event might be the only thing to entice me to go to the UAE.
    To think that fun is simple fun, while earnest things are earnest, proves all too plain that neither one thou truthfully discernest.

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    Quote Originally Posted by allezfred View Post
    Seems that the United Arab Emirates is now a provisional member of the ISU.

    http://www2.isu.org/vsite/vcontent/p...m-item,00.html

    Zahra Lari is competing in the Andorra Open this weekend.
    Great news! Hopefully they can channel some of those petro-dollars into developing skating.

    What we need now is to get one of the Emirs' children or grandchildren really interested in skating so that they start spending ridiculous amounts of money holding events and such.

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    There's another UAE lady competing in Junior Ladies at the Denkova/Staviski cup:


    Amira ABDUL MOATI

    http://clubdenkovastaviski.com/DSCup...U/CAT004EN.HTM

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    Thanks! I'll go start a thread for this competition in Kiss and Cry.

    ETA: http://www.fsuniverse.net/forum/show...Sofia-Bulgaria

    Moati's competitive history known to date: http://www.sport-folio.net/database/...moati/results/
    Last edited by Sylvia; 11-27-2013 at 05:44 PM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by allezfred View Post
    Going to a figure skating event might be the only thing to entice me to go to the UAE.
    Des-entice! Check the UAE's Article 354 of the Federal Penal Code.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tinami Amori View Post
    Des-entice! Check the UAE's Article 354 of the Federal Penal Code.
    Figure skating or possible arrest? It's a tough choice.
    To think that fun is simple fun, while earnest things are earnest, proves all too plain that neither one thou truthfully discernest.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nikeah View Post
    There's another UAE lady competing in Junior Ladies at the Denkova/Staviski cup:

    Amira ABDUL MOATI

    http://clubdenkovastaviski.com/DSCup...U/CAT004EN.HTM
    One page of Google search results has her as Russian, Egyptian and now UAE - a well-traveled young lady.

    There are some Youtube clips of her spinning, such as this one.

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    New article on Zahra Lari: http://www.thenational.ae/arts-cultu...bi-performance
    The 18-year-old is a first-year student at Abu Dhabi University, where she is studying environmental health and safety. And although she is still recovering from spraining a ligament in her back over the summer, which meant she had to cancel all competition plans for the rest of the year, she will be back in the new year starting with the New Year’s Cup in Slovakia, from January 3 to 6.

    She has a new coach – the Hungarian Zsolt Kerekes, who steered the Dutch skater Manouk Gijsman to her national title in 2009 – and is working on mastering more difficult spins, intricate footwork and her first two triple jumps, the the salchow and toe-loop.
    Amira ABDUL MOATI (UAE) finished 17th (62.94) in Junior Ladies at Denkova-Staviski Cup:
    http://clubdenkovastaviski.com/DSCup...U/CAT004RS.HTM
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