Who will be Patrick Chan's new coach

[spikydurian]

In reference to Mr Lucky.

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-YCcz36OwZO...bitterness.jpg

Great one Ozzisk8tr. The next time, it appears, we will have THIS SIGN appear thereafter!

[MrLucky]

I just wonder who is your favorite male skater.
Pluchenko?? or Takahashi?? or ......???

Chan is one of my favorite current skaters. That doesn't mean I think he should win just by showing up.

I admire Chan's skating skills and like his jumps when he is on. His superior talent for skating is obvious.

I do not like nearly as much his IN, overbaked choreo created soley to score points or his P/E. I see Chan as average at best at IN, CH and the P from P/E.

If that is harsh I get it that Chan is skating under a bad scoring system that kills creativity. But it's Chan's choice to skate the way he does and I don't have to like it.

I hope Chan becomes a more artistic skater and shows more originality.

Toller Cranston remains my favorite male skater...there was no one like him.

For now Chan is the top CoP skater. I hope for more.

[Emdee]

Well then Mr L you will acknowledge Toller's admiration of Chan .

What did Toller say about PC -" I almost dont want to watch him because it is too depressing. He is too good!"

Its all in PC's magic feet ... I say.

[Aussie Willy]

Chan is one of my favorite current skaters. That doesn't mean I think he should win just by showing up.

Boy we never would have realised that by the amount of sh*t you dump on him!

[shutterbug]

Is Doug Leigh still doing consulting for higher level skaters? If yes, this might be a good fit for Patrick since he doesn't seem to be looking for a full-time technical coach. He's trained in Barrie before and is familiar with the environment.

[l'etoile]

^^ yeah he does need a technical coach which would do only good for him. This no-news state kind if makes me newvous though. Is it Patrick's confirmed intention to skate near home?

[triple_toe]

IIRC Patrick tried Doug Leigh in the past and decided they weren't a good fit.

[spikydurian]

http://metronews.ca/sports/233813/ch...ake-next-step/

Confirmed! Patrick will have new coach/es and choreographer/s. Shall we make guesses on this thread?

[justAfsfan]

I actually think him getting more Russia style might be interesting.

I want to see him skate to chessy Morozov program (with transition) and Mao's bell of moscow style of program (with more transition), I think it's will be interesting.

[Emdee]

My guess regarding choreo is Buttle for long and Kathy Johnson or Kurt for short.

Buttle has been doing more choreo and has a classic style which can draw you into the program like in Elegy. Also, he tried him out on Elegy and liked him. Maybe he will take Elegy and turn it into a LP.

I think if the programs work well he will keep them for Olys. He likes time to get into his music. If they dont work he will have a chance to regroup or rechoreo.

I have totally mixed thought regarding coach. I hope its Kurt. Kurt probably really wants Canada to have an Oly gold and may realize his dreams in this way. It could even by Josee Chouinard who is at the Granite club.

If we write out a card ( not me my writing is BAD) we can send it to his parents home or to the Granite Club.

[spikydurian]

^^^ Kurt and Jeff would be great, Emdee! Not sure whether Kathy will choreograph anything other than adding the finishing touches to his programs. Maybe Jeff for short and David Wilson for long or vice versa. Who are the coaches in Toronto?

[Emdee]

SpikyD there are too many coaches to name in Toronto and surrounding areas.

Somehow I dont think he will go to David Wilson just because he has a number of skaters including Hanyu and Zavier.

I know he has used Doug Leigh but how about Lee Barkell Buttle's coach? I was also wondering about Josee Chouinard who is at the Granite where he skates.

Anyway lots to think about....

[Bournekraatzfan]

Thanks for the article, spikydurian

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I know he has used Doug Leigh but how about Lee Barkell Buttle's coach? I was also wondering about Josee Chouinard who is at the Granite where he skates.

Anyway lots to think about....

I had thought about Lee Barkell, but never even considered Josee. She had excellent jumps and even had a triple axel (which unfortunately she never got out in competition). And loads of charisma. Interesting suggestion. I remember she had coached Yoshie Onda for a little while. She even does a bit of costume design (though I guess Patrick would prefer to go to his girlfriend for that). Is Josee still Head Competitive Coach at the Granite Club?

[Emdee]

BKF, I think Josee is still technical head.

My bet is on Kurt. He has finished with battle of the blades, SOI is over for the year and since he would be part coach in any case it is likely that he will have the time. So I am sticking with a Kurt/Buttle two pronged approach.

[clarie]

I have faith that this is a good direction he is taking. When something is feeling stale, it's time to move on and explore new avenues and develop new skills. He may be slow to start this new season, but I'll be he will be full guns by Worlds. There are so many great coaches and choreographers here in Canada that I'm not really worried about him, and he's a big boy now.

[triple_toe]

Thanks for the article, spikydurian



I had thought about Lee Barkell, but never even considered Josee. She had excellent jumps and even had a triple axel (which unfortunately she never got out in competition). And loads of charisma. Interesting suggestion. I remember she had coached Yoshie Onda for a little while. She even does a bit of costume design (though I guess Patrick would prefer to go to his girlfriend for that). Is Josee still Head Competitive Coach at the Granite Club?

According to the Granite Club website, the skating director is Doug Haw. Anyone know anything about him? Here's what it says on the website:

The skating programs are designed and directed by Doug Haw, the highest certified coach in North America (Canadian NCCP Level 5 and PSA Master Coach in the USA).

Sounds really impressive but the only thing I could find on Google is that he coached Eliot Halverson for a while.

[Bournekraatzfan]

Thanks for the info, Emdee and triple_toe. I visited the link you provided, triple_toe, and they list Josee as a "Skating Specialist"...I also know that Shae-lynn was working with him in a mentor capacity. In any case, it appears that Patrick will be in good hands if he chooses to remain there. After seeing what I believe to be an artistic breakthrough for Chan with Elegie, I am excited by the prospect of two new programs (as much as I love Concerto Aranjuez).

[Jemestone]

Somehow I dont think he will go to David Wilson just because he has a number of skaters including Hanyu and Zavier.

According to Skate Canada both Wilson and Buttle are listed as his new choreographers

Skate Canada profile

[Rock2]

According to Skate Canada both Wilson and Buttle are listed as his new choreographers

Skate Canada profile

See that would make sense to me. Giving Jeff a high profile skater going into Olympics to choreo by himself is dangerous although I think Jeff's choreo is evolving amazingly such that you can't immediately identify his choreography as being recycled Jeff but much more original.

However while Jeff I"m sure is very inventive there are other things to consider. The choreography has to work well for that skater so that they can execute it seamlessly. Also has to be optimized for CoP. I think there are many tiny adjustments that have to be made along the way to really make the program comfortable for the skater and optimize their ability to perform it well and impress the judges. I think that part comes with a lot of experience and the ability to truly understand your skater. Having Wilson be a part of the team would be essential.

Luckily, though, there isn't much that Patrick can't do so I'm sure the final product will be glorious.

[Zokko!]

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