I admire Chan's skating skills and like his jumps when he is on. His superior talent for skating is obvious.
I do not like nearly as much his IN, overbaked choreo created soley to score points or his P/E. I see Chan as average at best at IN, CH and the P from P/E.
If that is harsh I get it that Chan is skating under a bad scoring system that kills creativity. But it's Chan's choice to skate the way he does and I don't have to like it.
I hope Chan becomes a more artistic skater and shows more originality.
Toller Cranston remains my favorite male skater...there was no one like him.
For now Chan is the top CoP skater. I hope for more.
Last edited by MrLucky; 05-14-2012 at 11:40 PM.
Well then Mr L you will acknowledge Toller's admiration of Chan .
What did Toller say about PC -" I almost dont want to watch him because it is too depressing. He is too good!"
Its all in PC's magic feet ... I say.
Is Doug Leigh still doing consulting for higher level skaters? If yes, this might be a good fit for Patrick since he doesn't seem to be looking for a full-time technical coach. He's trained in Barrie before and is familiar with the environment.
images on ice - Figure Skating Photography
^^ yeah he does need a technical coach which would do only good for him. This no-news state kind if makes me newvous though. Is it Patrick's confirmed intention to skate near home?
IIRC Patrick tried Doug Leigh in the past and decided they weren't a good fit.
I actually think him getting more Russia style might be interesting.
I want to see him skate to chessy Morozov program (with transition) and Mao's bell of moscow style of program (with more transition), I think it's will be interesting.
My guess regarding choreo is Buttle for long and Kathy Johnson or Kurt for short.
Buttle has been doing more choreo and has a classic style which can draw you into the program like in Elegy. Also, he tried him out on Elegy and liked him. Maybe he will take Elegy and turn it into a LP.
I think if the programs work well he will keep them for Olys. He likes time to get into his music. If they dont work he will have a chance to regroup or rechoreo.
I have totally mixed thought regarding coach. I hope its Kurt. Kurt probably really wants Canada to have an Oly gold and may realize his dreams in this way. It could even by Josee Chouinard who is at the Granite club.
If we write out a card ( not me my writing is BAD) we can send it to his parents home or to the Granite Club.
^^^ Kurt and Jeff would be great, Emdee! Not sure whether Kathy will choreograph anything other than adding the finishing touches to his programs. Maybe Jeff for short and David Wilson for long or vice versa. Who are the coaches in Toronto?
SpikyD there are too many coaches to name in Toronto and surrounding areas.
Somehow I dont think he will go to David Wilson just because he has a number of skaters including Hanyu and Zavier.
I know he has used Doug Leigh but how about Lee Barkell Buttle's coach? I was also wondering about Josee Chouinard who is at the Granite where he skates.
Anyway lots to think about....
Thanks for the article, spikydurian
BKF, I think Josee is still technical head.
My bet is on Kurt. He has finished with battle of the blades, SOI is over for the year and since he would be part coach in any case it is likely that he will have the time. So I am sticking with a Kurt/Buttle two pronged approach.
I have faith that this is a good direction he is taking. When something is feeling stale, it's time to move on and explore new avenues and develop new skills. He may be slow to start this new season, but I'll be he will be full guns by Worlds. There are so many great coaches and choreographers here in Canada that I'm not really worried about him, and he's a big boy now.
Addicted to FSU
the Granite Club website, the skating director is Doug Haw. Anyone know anything about him? Here's what it says on the website:
Sounds really impressive but the only thing I could find on Google is that he coached Eliot Halverson for a while.The skating programs are designed and directed by Doug Haw, the highest certified coach in North America (Canadian NCCP Level 5 and PSA Master Coach in the USA).
Thanks for the info, Emdee and triple_toe. I visited the link you provided, triple_toe, and they list Josee as a "Skating Specialist"...I also know that Shae-lynn was working with him in a mentor capacity. In any case, it appears that Patrick will be in good hands if he chooses to remain there. After seeing what I believe to be an artistic breakthrough for Chan with Elegie, I am excited by the prospect of two new programs (as much as I love Concerto Aranjuez).
However while Jeff I"m sure is very inventive there are other things to consider. The choreography has to work well for that skater so that they can execute it seamlessly. Also has to be optimized for CoP. I think there are many tiny adjustments that have to be made along the way to really make the program comfortable for the skater and optimize their ability to perform it well and impress the judges. I think that part comes with a lot of experience and the ability to truly understand your skater. Having Wilson be a part of the team would be essential.
Luckily, though, there isn't much that Patrick can't do so I'm sure the final product will be glorious.