I agree that TV coverage could do a much better job of explaining base values, GOEs, etc., but Ms. DiManno is not writing about TV coverage.
Who wants to watch rich people eat pizza? They must have loved that in Bangladesh. - Randy Newman on the 2014 Oscars broadcast
Did Chan not do 2 quads one in combination and the triple axle. He won it right there. He would have won in the old system too. The french don't know their skating if they don't recognize that. Even I knew he had won when he stepped off the ice and I'm not the most technical person with this new system.
The guys are going to have to being putting 2 quads in their programs to compete.
Figure skating is a sport first and what I believe COP brought to the table is that, most importantly, the technical scores are clearer to the athletes and the coaches. When looking at the technical scores, there is at least the potential for them to analyze them, understand why they received the marks they did, and work to improve. Under 6.0, it had to be more of a guessing game. I can just imagine a lot of times that athletes and coaches just threw up their hands because they couldn't be sure where they had "lost points" and concluding that it didn't matter how they skated because the judges would never give them the credit due.
As for the PCS, however
Even less of a reason to boo .. really? I'm not even going to argue "robotic" which I don't agree with but skaters have to be appreciated for all different programs.
There was a media seminary at Worlds, maybe the journalist should have attended it. As for spectators loosing interest, I can say that the rink was full on Saturday and Sunday, less so on the working days, especially in the afternoon sessions. But overall the impression was positive and many fans from other countries had come although the tickets were certainly not cheap (and Nice is not a cheap place, too).
Chan vs Takahashi - you can make a point for both. In my opinion, the difference in points should have been smaller. I would have preferred Takahashi and I think his PCSs should be higher, but I don't really have a problem with Chan winning.
The (French) people sitting around me in Nice were booing because Joubert didn't get a medal and no, they didn't understand why, because they had rarely been to see skating before and thought Patrick's fall would allow Brian in. It was pure nationalism! As a Brit with no national bias (I enjoy both skaters for their various strengths) I tried to explain, but they refused to listen.
you didn't say thing regarding the brouhaha in 2002 == with pairs.
now it effects you. you stated other people are unknowledgable and don't know anything about Cop --yet you don't take a step back and try for figure out why they stated it.
why--your favorites win, and are placed high regardless.
if that was the case why did mao only get 102 for a fall. she had decent pcs.
why did alissa with 5 get a 75 she had a great skate if not for falls, it would look good.
she deserved lower in my opinion regarding alissa.
why judge ladies harsher than mens. outside of quad nothing different-in fact most men skate like ladies anyways.
you want more money --have to judge all same-high/harsh level. not just one.
why after moir complained stayed up on top despite little mistakes.
i can go on and on.
patrick skated okay-not well-but okay-9's for falls. yes he tried two quads--reward.
or is something else into play-like bias, race, politics--
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Television does a terrible job of explaining even the concepts of CoP. PJ Kwong on CBC was at least trying to bring audience along by giving them a simplified technical score sheet to work from (forget about PCS, but was a good start).
I hate how the marks are read out in the audience. Skater skates. And then a total score is read. 168.23. Bleh. no transparency. They show Tech and PCS but don't even read those out.
When CoP first started the announcer read out each PCS score individually. Maybe that seemed too long but in years past they read out each judges two sets of scores in 6.0 so...
I wish they read out the six scores (tech and each of 5 PCS) and flashed the ranking for each score...before reading total score and rank. And then leave that on the screen. So while the judging isn't perfect it helps the audience a bit if they say "ok so this guy got 1st in performance and 1st in interpretation but was 6th to 8th in everything else. Now I see where he lost it". It's a start. Once you get audience used to that you work down the road on helping the audience understand what each component is, etc.
Needs work and more effort to educate.
The problem is not that the audience doesn't get CoP, it's that CoP values things the audience doesn't necessarily care about, while it doesn't value visible things in a program that a non-educated (skating wise) audience appreciates.
I don't know if it's bad or good, but I do think "the skate of the night" should be properly awarded. Even the so-called "audience-friendly" programs. After all, figure skating is a sport where audience plays a significant role and whether a skater/team has the ability to please the spectators should also be a factor in the score. Audiences are not full of idiots, they can appreciate more sophisticated programs, if only they have the spark.
Besides, the problem people have with Chan is that he can do 50% of what he planned and still win over his 100% clean rivals, just because his edges are deep or whatever. I mean, the fact that someone stumbles or falls a lot in one program really should be somehow reflected in the SS, don't you think?