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    Chan Conquers Toughest Six Inches

    Yes, that is the title. As Miss Mae West might have said: hummm.....


    http://www.thespec.com/sports/articl...est-six-inches

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    "Conquering" six inches? Not impressed. Weak!

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    Takahashi is in Chan's league! He is just not as consistent. Many might say Chan is not in Takahashi's league artistically! They are both in the same league!

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    I think they're both talented, gifted skaters. I'm Canadian and I'll lean toward Patrick, but if Dai comes out and skates his best to win the title I'll be just fine with that.

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    The writing with all the similes, metaphors and cliches made my head hurt.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DFJ View Post
    I think they're both talented, gifted skaters. I'm Canadian and I'll lean toward Patrick, but if Dai comes out and skates his best to win the title I'll be just fine with that.
    Agreed! But, if you look at the base value of the technical elements in their FPs, Patrick does have the edge there. If he skates cleanly, I'm not sure if anyone could beat him.

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    And the Pulitzer prize goes to...
    "I'm not in this world to live up to your expectations and you're not in this world to live up to mine."

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    This Article Title...

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    Chanuck of the North?

    Wow, these Canadian journalists sure have wildly over-extended imaginations, and hugely entertaining descriptive vocabularies -- hilarious analogies and wordplays. They take hype and misspeak to a whole 'nother level.

    Fascinatingly, they even trump the Reuters journalist from last fall: "Chan trapped between two worlds." Now, "Chan conquers toughest six inches." It will be an amazingly enough feat should Chan ever be able to overcome all the Chanuck of the North hype/ hoopla and the ISU judges' uber Chandom to truly develop his artistic skills to the level of skaters such as Daisuke, Abbott, Savoie, Weir, Cranston. Did the Canadian press carry on this way about Toller, Brian, and Kurt in their heydays???

    "The middle of an Olympiad is when the oil stick starts to give a more accurate reading and it’s sure got a lot to say about Patrick Chan."

    "Takahashi is one of those dangerously exciting skaters — he’s going to bring you out of your seat or hurt his face trying to — but in all-around talent and delivery systems, he’s not really in Chan’s league."

    Wallapuhlooza, ya don't say. I think Chan would beg to differ re Dai not being in his league as a top skater. OTOH, Chan himself really is not in the same "league" as Dai and Abbott when it comes to artistry and musical interpretation (despite the numbing ad infinitum verdicts of ISU judges).

    "It’s still almost two years out from Sochi, but it’s possible that by the time we get there, no one will be in Chan’s league."

    Kinda scary, eh? I guess at the rate the ISU judges are scoring Chan, and the way he's being heralded/ exalted in the Canadian press, perhaps by 2014, Chan will be "In a League of His Own," and he won't even have to skate on Sochi ice. The Olympic gold medal will be awarded to him during the opening ceremonies.

    "He’s so artistic he could make a Stevedore cry."

    Seriously, does the writer know anything about figure skating? If a skater has artistry, it is witnessed, felt, and remembered in a way that is beyond words. No one has to proclaim it in this over-hyped, ham-handed way.

    "...flinging the emotional wobblies toward the other skaters..." Such flinging could have a boomerang effect.

    Re, the writer's reference to "overconfidence" being more welcome to an athlete than "self-doubt" and "inconsistency," I think all athletes suffer from the latter two characteristics. It is the former that should be considered unwelcome and dangerous when competing on thin ice.

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    The title is . . .

    . . . but the title should really be "The Canadian Media Answers Chan".

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    I really don't think most of Chan's wins are based on any great consistency on his part. If ISU technical controllers are starting to use you as an example of PCS reputation scoring gone a muke, there's a problem.

    He's overall the best in the world when he skates well though. I really don't think this kind of thing will continue till Sochi. He still needs to conquer the consistency thing. No one's really consistent though-to be fair. But I think someone is going to eventually step up in that department.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bek View Post
    No one's really consistent though-to be fair.
    *cough* Plush *cough*
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    Holy nationalistic fluff piece Batman, that shit was off the hook! The freudian gay slip title alone makes it an instant classic.

    So basically....

    Remember that non-incident the media desperately tried to make into something big, but no one cared? Well, let me mention it one more time. Do you care yet? No? Oh, well then I meant it ironically. I meant no one cared. That's why I mention it for no reason.

    Chan's one world title makes him a god. Dai's one world title makes him a loser that isn't fit to sharpen Paddy's skates. Chan is sure to win worlds, but even if he doesn't, he's still so good he'll still be the best skater, like EVAH!

    The only reason why Paddy isn't a big big hero in Canada is because:
    1. He trains all the way far far away in a distant country that is the only country Canada shares a border with. Oh, and a language.
    2. Sports writers don't use telephones. Or email. Or skype. They only write about athletes who train a few blocks from their office. Everyone knows that.
    3. Worlds was postponed, so I guess everyone forgot about it.
    4. Paddy's dog ate his homework.
    5. It's all Kerrigan's fault. I'll tell you why later, but just trust me on this, it's all Nancy's fault.

    So even if Paddy never wins again, which is silly because he's going to win like EVERYTHING!, it doesn't matter because he's so great small puppies cry when he skates. All other skaters suck. All of them. He's going to win the Olys, because he's unbeatable, just like Orser and Browning and Elvis. They all won the Olys, right?

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    This kind of articles really do not help Chan win fans.

    Quote Originally Posted by bek View Post
    I really don't think most of Chan's wins are based on any great consistency on his part.
    Agreed. Except consistency issues keep other skaters from placing well, but not him.

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    Quote Originally Posted by shine View Post
    This kind of articles really do not help Chan win fans.


    Agreed. Except consistency issues keep other skaters from placing well, but not him.
    But I think it may eventually affect him. The outcry is getting louder and louder. He won't win the Olympics with 3 falls.

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    and I thought PJ Kwong was the worst in terms of uber dumbfounded bias

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    Quote Originally Posted by shine View Post
    This kind of articles really do not help Chan win fans.


    Agreed. Except consistency issues keep other skaters from placing well, but not him.
    No it doesn't in fact it does the oposite and in my opinion Chan doesn't compare to Dai's musicality, expression, flow -- Dai is in a league by himself!

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    Quote Originally Posted by aftershocks View Post
    Wow, these Canadian journalists sure have wildly over-extended imaginations, and hugely entertaining descriptive vocabularies
    That is like saying that an overinflated self-centred article by Phil Hersh is representative of all American journalists' writing.

    It's one article by one writer. It's not even representative of how the majority of Canadian sports journalists write, not to mention Canadian journalists in general.

    And not to further defend a bad article, but it's not a news article. It's clearly an opinion piece, so the writer's bias is naturally going to show in it.
    You should never write words with numbers. Unless you're seven. Or your name is Prince. - "Weird Al" Yankovic, "Word Crimes"

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    Quote Originally Posted by PDilemma View Post
    The writing with all the similes, metaphors and cliches made my head hurt.
    Headache, eyeache, earache, nosebleed, total head trauma, not to mention nausea, acid indigestion and gas pains. The writer himself apparently suffers from serious incurable brain fart disease.

    Quote Originally Posted by berthesghost View Post
    Holy nationalistic fluff piece Batman, that shit was off the hook! The freudian gay slip title alone makes it an instant classic. ....


    Quote Originally Posted by berthesghost View Post
    ... because he's unbeatable, just like Orser and Browning and Elvis. They all won the Olys, right?
    You hit the nail on the head, the chicken on the neck, and perfectly placed the tail on the donkey (pardon my annoying cliches) ... In other words, that must be why all the giddy over-reaching and over-hyping that goes on from far north ... Perhaps the Canucks/ Chanucks are over-excited and losing their minds over finally having a sure thing shoo-in to win the fs Men's Olympic gold medal!!!???

    Alas, Orser, Browning, and even Elvis should have won the Olympics --Orser would have in 1984 if it had been under the present scoring system (or even under a post 1990 scoring system sans figures). Browning certainly had the chops and the choreo to do so, but it just wasn't his couple of days/ couple of Olympics. Elvis did win in 1994 -- at least he won the fans and the media with his performances, but the status quo elitist fs nose-in-the-air point of view at the time apparently forced the judges to hold their noses/ hold back on giving Elvis his due, and they prematurely rewarded the classic elegance of Alexei Urmanov. Unfortunately from then on, Urmanov unofficially became the nobody, scapegoat, loser of the skating world, while unfortunately the judges tried to make up for their Olympic error in judgement by over-rewarding Elvis at the following umpteenth World championships.

    Quote Originally Posted by Moka-Ananas View Post
    *cough* Plush *cough*
    OT: Granted that Plush is a consistent jumper, amazing athlete and an often unbeatable competitor, but it's not as if he doesn't too have inconsistencies and weaknesses. Otherwise, he wouldn't be human. And that brings us back to the topic at hand...

    Quote Originally Posted by Moka-Ananas View Post
    And the Pulitzer prize goes to...
    No one who writes about fs, not ever in a thousand years. Although, Joy Goodwin's The Second Mark, probably should have received a nomination, or at the least an honorable mention. Alas, berthesghost is on target again... When it comes to figure skating, who in the larger crazy world out there gives a rat's ass or even a "rusty hoot." TPTB in fs (much less the clueless media) certainly don't help matters. I guess it is a challenge to bring an honest vision and understanding (forget about accurate, meaningful coverage) of fs into the 21st century. It is still so trapped up and mired in the nineteenth. "Figure skating trapped betwixt and between three centuries." Aha!

    Quote Originally Posted by shine View Post
    This kind of articles really do not help Chan win fans...
    Definite understatement, and you can say that again, and again, and again ... This article is like a cartoon or a superhero fantasy. It tells us absolutelyf***in' nothin' about Patrick Chan as either a person or a figure skating athlete. The total disrespect it "flings" at Patrick's competitors is so shameful, it's laughable. I guess all the skaters who might read this craptastic baloney will as usual, shake their heads, scratch their heads, have a laugh, shake it off, ignore it in the first place and carry on with their training for Worlds and/or prep for next season.

    In the end, figure skating is truly about the skaters, the amazing dedication and hard work required of them, and about the highs and lows of competing. Their true stories are still waiting to be told. Please go away Steve Milton. Hopefully, a new generation of writers who love and breathe the sport will someday be able to write about it with honesty, accuracy, objectivity, vision, wit and wisdom, sans agonizing cliches and overdone hype. Figure skating is not your everyday big ball sport. It is athleticism, performance art, and sport with many conundrums, ironies and challenges.

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    Quote Originally Posted by overedge View Post
    That is like saying that an overinflated self-centred article by Phil Hersh is representative of all American journalists' writing.

    It's one article by one writer. It's not even representative of how the majority of Canadian sports journalists write, not to mention Canadian journalists in general.

    And not to further defend a bad article, but it's not a news article. It's clearly an opinion piece, so the writer's bias is naturally going to show in it.
    Even Phil can't write that badly. He manages to avoid the nausea inducing cliches and descriptions.

    And I don't think anyone suggested that all Canadian journalists write this badly. Although, having done college newspaper and taught journalism here and there, it seems generous to call anyone who writes in this overwrought style a journalist.

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