What's the rationale behind having top skaters peak twice in 3 weeks?
In years past, when some National championships, Grand Prix Finals, plus Europeans were all scheduled in January-February, skaters, coaches and fans noticed a weariness creeping in by the time World came around in March. Isn't this the reason that GPF is now in December?
Dick Button Historical Quote of the Month: "Good grief, what have we wrought on the world? Oh my, oh my, OH MY!" (commenting on Tara Lipinsky's free skate, at the 1997 U.S. Nationals)
I think in the case of Carolina Kostner, it was a good idea to test out the new jump layout for the LP at least once before Worlds, since she's dropping a more dependable easier element for a more difficult element that is getting better in consistency as the season progresses.
Anyway, I do think Jeremy needs a "down" competition, though perhaps not quite far down in the TES. Anyway, anyone knows why he switched the flip and lutz? Made no sense to me at all
The best thing about this competition is to secure Kostner's position as gold favorite and to take pressure off Wagner from having the highest seasons best total score.
But how come the ISU statistics are not updated? Are they not yet updated or does the competition not count for this?
As for Mirai her stock has definitely dropped, she has to turn in a few solid competitions in a row to build it back up. Not to mention have better programs skated with more attack and oomph, even if she skates cleanly. Mirai skating the best performances of her life by far came a distant 4th at the Olympics, and would have been below Rachel Flatt of all people without her 2 downgrades, Lepisto without her 2 doubled jumps, and Ando if she skated just slightly less abysmal, so lets not pretend the judges will immediately go goo ga over a clean Mirai to the point other Americans could never compete, let alone the reigning U.S Champion and 4CC Champion.
Until proven otherwise all three of them are still only second tier contenders at the World level at best, until one of them actually medals at a Worlds. None at their best is much better than the other two, but Ashley who is by far skating the best of the trio right now and has the judges momentum and recent titles behind her, definitely has the edge at the moment, even if all 3 magically competed the next day and skated very well.
Last edited by judgejudy27; 03-14-2012 at 05:32 AM.
Thanks for setting us all straight. Whatever would we do without you?
"...some people are moulded by their admiration, others by their hostilities.”
― Elizabeth Bowen, The Death of the Heart
Yes, it probably would have been smarter to send the folks who just missed the World team, but I wonder if it would have been seen as a bit of an insult to the Dutch organizers to send less than our best. Maybe the USFS gained some "you scratch my back..." points for this. Are there Dutch judges on any of the panels at Worlds?
So, maybe the USFS figured neither of these skaters ever does much of anything at Worlds anyway, so burning them here isn't really much of a price to pay. Heck, maybe going into Worlds with such a good excuse for failure will actually take the pressure off and they will skate well. We'll see.
Last edited by geod2; 03-14-2012 at 10:04 AM.
Senior B's count for World Standings/Ranking points and for the minimum TES qualifying scores for championships. A few that are held before GP season ends and are listed in the GP Announcement also count towards meeting the GP minimums.
The piece is seventy-five minutes long...[l]ong enough for an idea to be developed, but not so long that one starts to measure the number of seats to the exits with desperation if the thing doesn’t work" -- Marina Harss
Caro, Alissa, etc, chose to skate here in preparation for worlds. Was it a good idea? We'll see come worlds. But these conspiracy theories are just silly.
It´s difficult to decide, whether it was a mistake or not to send these two skaters to Challenge Cup... On the other hand to participate in a competition is good, but on the other hand one loses training time while travelling and being in a competition, especially if the event is in another continent and Worlds event is very close. And in Challenge Cup their skating was not so good, but anyway better to have bad performances in Netherland rather than in Nice.... Or will their bad luck continue? Hopefully not!!!
USA has several good skaters in men and ladies and therefore really needs to get three World spots in those disciplines again, especially as the Olympics are approaching. So much pressure on the shoulders of the participants, no wonder if the known "headcases" break.
Last edited by Jaana; 03-14-2012 at 12:27 PM.
i dont know, from what i saw,
alissa didn't fight.
for me what came out both her and her coach was still thinking about past 0--4cc.
it seems if they focused more on challenge instead of bringing up past she might have done better, but than i always thought of alissa as more of a front end skater (beginning season) than ending season skater.
in other words she skated better in beginning than at end.
i think alissa has to focus more on end than she does /want to. in my opinion.