I would suggest that Candeloro's step sequence is what got him a medal. It just worked. There was no denying that he was incredibly entertaining and the judges had to give him credit for the fact that conceptually and musically he was miles ahead of everyone else. Todd was quite elegant and clean, but boring.
When you are up to your arse in alligators it is difficult to remember you were only meant to be draining the swamp.
Ladies with 2 or more World medals but no Olympic Medal
2 bronze - Tiffany Chin, Claudia Kristofics-Binder
1 silver, 1 bronze - Julie Lynn Holmes
2 silver - Claudia Leistner
1 gold, 1 bronze - Jill Trenary
1 silver, 2 bronze - Fumie Suguri, Carolina Kostner
3 silver - Surya Bonaly
1 gold, 2 bronze - Maria Butyrskaya
1 gold, 1 silver, 1 bronze - Elaine Zayak
Men with 2 or more World medals but no Olympic Medal
2 bronze - Takeshi Honda, Michael Weiss, Gary Visconti
1 silver, 1 bronze - Christopher Bowman, Norbert Schramm
1 gold, 3 bronze - Alexander Fadeev
4 gold, 1 silver - Kurt Browning
1 gold, 3 silver, 2 bronze - Todd Eldredge, Brian Joubert
Pairs with 2 or more World medals but no Olympic medal
2 bronze - Starbuck and Shelley
1 silver, 1 bronze - Pestova and Leonovich
1 gold, 1 bronze - Underhill and Martini
1 gold, 1 silver - Kavarikova and Novotny
1 silver, 2 bronze - Meno and Sand (Sand with an additional bronze with Kuchiki)
1 gold, 2 bronze - Babilonia and Gardner
1 gold, 1 silver, 1 bronze - Eltsova and Bushkov, Shishkova and Naumov
1 gold, 1 silver, 2 bronze - Petrova and Tikhnov
1 gold, 3 silver, 1 bronze - Baess and Thierbach
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Did Johnny Weir win two world bronze medals or just one?
Yuka Sato won just one world medal, but it was a gold.
Petrova-Tikhonov: 1 gold, 1 bronze
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Dance Teams with 2 or more World medals but no Olympic Medal:
1 silver, 1 bronze - Moniotte and Lavanchy, Rahkamo and Kokko
2 silver - Dubreuil and Lauzon
3 bronze - Blumberg and Seibert
2 gold, 1 silver, 1 bronze - Denkova and Staviski
1 gold, 1 silver, 4 bronze - Bourne and Kraatz
By the way, the fact that Todd Eldredge and Brian Joubert have the exact same distribution of their 6 world championship medals is quite something!
1 gold, 3 silver, 2 bronze - Todd Eldredge, Brian Joubert
If P/T were robbed in 2001 or 2002, they were gifted at 2003 Worlds. His stamina was awful, and several lifts almost came to a complete stop. Their style and line were neither the same nor complementary, and few of their elements were exceptional. They always seemed to be the oddball Russian pair.
Dubreuil/Lauzon looked like they were on their way to a medal until the disaster in the OD.
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Petrova & Tikhonov might well have won the 2000 Worlds even had Berezhnaya & Sikharulidze competed although obviously a clean B&S would have won easily. That was a crazy and wide open year for pairs, nobody dominating. Petrova & Tikhonov had been the most consistent pair all season, the only pair to not one of their regular grand prix outings. Although they came 4th at the Grand Prix final they were the only pair to skate cleanly there, but that particular panel was clearly not on their side. Berezhnaya & Sikharulidze were having one of their most subpar seasons and were very up and down. It wouldnt surprise me much if they made enough errors to not win Worlds, although they might well have won too of course, it is no certainty.
I would have had Langlois & Archetto 5th in the SP instead of 6th and 3rd in the LP and 3rd overall at the 2003 Worlds. Then again I would have had Petrova & Tikhonov 2nd in the SP (since Shen & Zhou botched their spins badly) which would have still had them 3rd overall.
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I loved B&S's Valse Sentimentale LP, and even their Radetzky March SP (when skated clean/nearly clean) of the 2000 season. I read that by the time worlds arrived, they had worked through their problems and were feeling comfortable with their programs. Actually their skate at the Europeans was pretty good, except for a doubled triple toe by Elena. So there is a good chance that B&S would have won their 3rd world championship in a row and set themselves well for the pre-Olympic year 2001.
Still, I would not take anything away from Pet-Tik because they delivered two solid skates when it counted, and B&S's skate never happened. S&Z were not even close in that LP, based on how everyone skated.
Shen & Zhou robbed in 2000? Definitely not. They were in fact lucky to win silver, and many said so at the time as well. They had 4 mistakes in their long program, and their technical marks to be as high as they were a joke, particularly when the French had only 1 mistakes (granted a fall on a throw) and received lower tech. marks, and Sale & Pelletier had 3 mistakes on jumps but did everything else cleanly and received 5.4s and 5.5s for technical vs the 5.7s and 5.8s of Shen & Zhou (probably the only time I would ever say S&P were underscored compared to S&Z). They could have just as easily been 3rd or 4th, although I didnt have a problem with their coming 2nd, 1st no way. As Vash01 said they werent even a good artistic team yet, they were a great technical team, so they werent ever going to win by missing alot of their major elements.
It would be interesting if Elena & Anton winning in 2000 would have solidified their reputation as the dominant team to the point it would have been much harder for Sale & Pelletier to be pushed above them in the coming seasons. After an unconvincing season, then missing Worlds, it made it easier for TPTB to help push S&P to the top very soon, even after bombing their Nice LP.
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