2012-2013/14 Short Dance News

**The Accordion** · 03-01-2012, 07:03 AM

Originally Posted by nlyoung

Emmanuel Sandhu had an awesome exhibition to Hip Hop music a few years back.

Ohhhhhhh. I did adore that.

**skatingfan04** · 03-01-2012, 08:39 AM

Hip hop, really? It's like the ISU is trying to make people hate the SD even more than we already do. It should make for some entertaining JGP performances, though.

I'm totally thrilled with the Finnstep being the SD for the Olympics though. I really love that one, and with the twizzles and other elements that it includes, it will probably make the SD look more like an OD than any of the other dances would have. That should make some of the program flow a little better.

**casken** · 03-01-2012, 09:09 AM

Not SD related, but from that article,

On the free dance front, the small transitional ("highlight") lift has been eliminated, but the final highlight lift will now have a base value.

So it's been eliminated, but not?

**Zemgirl** · 03-01-2012, 09:21 AM

I can't stand hip-hop, and it's even worse on the ice. Takahashi included.

But Finnstep at the Olympics - I can live with that

**DORISPULASKI** · 03-01-2012, 09:27 AM

Originally Posted by Hanna

This is perfect news.

Hiphop, swing and blues for juniors next season?

And Yankee Polka for seniors AND then Finnstep for the Olympic season? Absolutely perfect.

The only

was the part about waltz going together with Yankee Polka. I pray most teams will just stick with the polka.

It depends which polka-the polka from Der Fledermaus works very well with a waltz. It's the "Memories of a Grand Ball" theme, which produced one of my very favorite ever OD's, including Denkova & Staviyski's Baroque Grand Ball program, and YMMV, but I love Winkler & Lohse's Grand Ball OD, which included a polka sequence.

Originally Posted by skatingfan04

Hip hop, really? It's like the ISU is trying to make people hate the SD even more than we already do. It should make for some entertaining JGP performances, though.

I'm totally thrilled with the Finnstep being the SD for the Olympics though. I really love that one, and with the twizzles and other elements that it includes, it will probably make the SD look more like an OD than any of the other dances would have. That should make some of the program flow a little better.

Umm-a Finnstep is one of the most watched skating youtube videos of all time (currently over 1.5 million page views!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7rwAgMg09v8

Originally Posted by casken

Not SD related, but from that article,

So it's been eliminated, but not?

That will be interesting-the final lift will be scored--skaters better not mess it up then, and better save some energy for the very end.

**TAHbKA** · 03-01-2012, 09:31 AM

Originally Posted by rosetintmyworld

Who could ever forget this...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uYlc_Or6vgg

Actually I hated that dance - they were standing on the same place the whole time hardly moving or gliding at all (and imho their skating and ice coverage was normally very good). It gives too much space for posing/making faces and not skating. IMHO it will look good on the cameras only while those who sit high or behind the judges will suffer.

Love the seniors SD rhythms!

**LilJen** · 03-01-2012, 03:00 PM

Originally Posted by skatingfan04

Hip hop, really? It's like the ISU is trying to make people hate the SD even more than we already do. It should make for some entertaining JGP performances, though.

Ugh, hip hop will be dreadful! But yeah, it will most likely take on a "so bad it's amazing" quality.

**Evilynn** · 03-01-2012, 03:30 PM

Originally Posted by Cherub721

Waltz is an option next year again? Hopefully the dances will evoke the "Memories of a Grand Ball" OD from 2003, which I loved (I know that's an unpopular opinion).

DenSta's OD from that year is one of my favourite ODs ever.

Yankee Polka... I, errr...Well, I'm glad the Finnstep will be used from the Oly season?

**sap5** · 03-01-2012, 04:47 PM

Originally Posted by Aussie Willy

Although how do they handle the use of the word "pussy" in a hip hop song?

They don't seem to have a problem with crotch lifts, so I think they'll be fine with this.

**Hanna** · 03-01-2012, 05:10 PM

Originally Posted by DORISPULASKI

Umm-a Finnstep is one of the most watched skating youtube videos of all time (currently over 1.5 million page views!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7rwAgMg09v8

Ah PML, I had already forgotten about that. The memories.

**allezfred** · 03-01-2012, 05:25 PM

Originally Posted by DORISPULASKI

Umm-a Finnstep is one of the most watched skating youtube videos of all time (currently over 1.5 million page views!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7rwAgMg09v8

I think that was by far the most entertaining CD event ever. We had Boobleva, Domnina/Shabalin falling, the Greeks skipping parts of the pattern because it was too difficult (but still beating 2nd Azeris

) and Bourzat snarking afterwards that the dance didn't require deep edges.

**DORISPULASKI** · 03-01-2012, 05:44 PM

The Euros CD was

!! for sure.

I am so glad we are going to see the Finnstep again

All that quickstep bouncing is sure to produce more costume failure drama.

Beside, I loved R&K, and seeing the Finnstep scheduled always reminds me to go back and watch their Borsalino OD, from which the Finnstep was derived.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8ieH0uk-cks

And it will be interesting as heck to see what the ISU picks for the key points. Will the tech panel need super slo mo instead of regular slo mo to watch?

**Frau Muller** · 03-01-2012, 06:37 PM

Wow, two of my favorites! Yankee Polka -- Shibs will OWN it! -- then the Finnstep for the Olympic year. Oh, yeahhhhh!!!!! Love the bouncing on toepicks!

**Conga** · 03-01-2012, 07:14 PM

Originally Posted by sk9tingfan

The Juniors can include Hip Hop in their SD's as indicated in the IceNetwork article below. The skaters have to check the lyrics for obscenities...can't wait for that!

For the Seniors, the Yankee Polka can be combined with any style of Polka, March or Waltz rhythm

The 2013/2014 senior dance is the Finnstep.

http://www.icenetwork.com/news/artic...&vkey=ice_news

Why do you think an effort to get a younger audience is focused on the Juniors? Other than those that are already fans, who is going to pay any attention? I know that many of the posters here do not think it is important to try to "market" to new fans, but the ISU is at least aware that it is vital to the sport.

Now, I like the Yankee Polka and I love a good waltz, but we had waltz combinations in last season's SD and IIRC the Golden CD the season before. I would have liked to see something for the Senior SD that could pull in younger audiences (and I daresay that neither the concept nor the music selections for the Yankee will do it

) and then move to the demanding Yankee or Finnstep for the Olympic year.

I will be watching the Juniors next season in hopes of seeing some fun swing and great blues programs and out of curiosity to see who is willing to include hip hop and can do it well.

**Conga** · 03-01-2012, 07:31 PM

Originally Posted by Frau Muller

Wow, two of my favorites! Yankee Polka Oh, yeahhhhh!!!!! Love the bouncing on toepicks!

And do you think they will resurface the ice more frequently?

**Frau Muller** · 03-01-2012, 07:36 PM

Originally Posted by Conga

And do you think they will resurface the ice more frequently?

They'll have to plug-in the holes and ruts, for sure. I really enjoyed watching the Finnstep at Euros a couple of seasons ago. It would be wonderful of Rahkamo/Kokko may be present in Sochi, to witness their dance at an Olympics. What a turn of luck! I remember when R/K were asked to change their Polka OD (or OSP) during the 1991/92 Olympic season, because it was considered to be too risque.

As for Hip-hop....all I can say is: That theme kills beauty and glamour. They'll just wear dirty street clothes. 'Nuff said.

**Conga** · 03-01-2012, 07:44 PM

Originally Posted by Frau Muller

As for Hip-hop....all I can say is: That theme kills beauty and glamour. They'll just wear dirty street clothes. 'Nuff said.

Well, I doubt that the "dirty street clothes" will be without sparkle

But isn't that part of the problem with all these mashups of rhythm? How does one design a polka costume that works with a waltz? And although I vote for a single rhythm, I think maintaining a polka for the full SD would be quite a feat for most teams and we won't see it often.

**GarrAarghHrumph** · 03-01-2012, 08:13 PM

Originally Posted by allezfred

I think that was by far the most entertaining CD event ever. We had Boobleva, Domnina/Shabalin falling, the Greeks skipping parts of the pattern because it was too difficult (but still beating 2nd Azeris

) and Bourzat snarking afterwards that the dance didn't require deep edges.

I remember speaking to the guy from the second AZE couple soon after this event. He told me they'd learned the CD from videos, and when they got to Euros and saw the others in practice sessions, realized they were doing it wrong. So they had to relearn the dance on the practice ice at the event itself.

**Subway** · 03-01-2012, 09:09 PM

Originally Posted by Frau Muller

They'll have to plug-in the holes and ruts, for sure. I really enjoyed watching the Finnstep at Euros a couple of seasons ago. It would be wonderful of Rahkamo/Kokko may be present in Sochi, to witness their dance at an Olympics. What a turn of luck! I remember when R/K were asked to change their Polka OD (or OSP) during the 1991/92 Olympic season, because it was considered to be too risque.

As for Hip-hop....all I can say is: That theme kills beauty and glamour. They'll just wear dirty street clothes. 'Nuff said.

Hip hop dancers' clothes are as clean as anyone's.

**AJ Skatefan** · 03-01-2012, 10:53 PM

Speaking of hip hop dances, I'm surprised no one mentioned this one:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SKLytqEmFMk

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