View Poll Results: Who is the greatest singles male skater from North America?

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  • Dick Button

    92 29.21%
  • Scott Hamilton

    3 0.95%
  • Brian Boitano

    25 7.94%
  • Todd Eldredge

    1 0.32%
  • Brian Orser

    6 1.90%
  • Paul Wylie

    5 1.59%
  • Kurt Browning

    117 37.14%
  • Evan Lysacek

    9 2.86%
  • Elvis Stojko

    2 0.63%
  • Patrick Chan

    42 13.33%
  • David Jenkins

    3 0.95%
  • Other

    10 3.17%
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    A list without Jeremy Abbott, Jeffrey Buttle, and Matt Savoie is just incomplete and wrong I think. For sure, I would have them as being impactful to the sport, much more so than Evan Lysacek, Elvis Stojko, and Todd Eldredge.

    Medals alone do not create impact or a legacy, IMO. For me, the emotions you stir in the viewer and artistic images you create for your audience and etch in their minds and souls are more impactful. Jeremy, Jeff, and Matt consistently do/did this for me. Besides, in terms of medal haul, Buttle's resume is more impressive than Eldredge's. Buttle is an Olympic medalist and like Todd, he has 1 World title too.

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    Elvis's longevity, competitive vigour and record (first quad combo, first 4-3) means he deserves to be on this list, without a doubt. I would rather watch the skaters you list, but I think he's earned his spot.

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    For all the hate Chan gets around here.. cool to see him in 3rd place so far.

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    I chose Lysacek, because he is my favourite and because he has the necessary merits/titles (OG, WC, GPF and Nationals). Button has more titles than the rest, but I disliked men´s skating before John Curry, LOL.

    Buttle (and not Eldredge) should have been on the poll, because besides being a WC, he also won an Olympic medal.
    Last edited by Jaana; 02-24-2012 at 06:57 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vash01 View Post
    Browning: 4 world titles and a long & successful pro career
    Chan: 1 world title and a lot to look forward to, but it hasn't happened yet.

    It's too early to say Chan will beat Kurt in achievements. The odds are in his favor, but unexpected things happen.
    Oh I totally agree with you, that's why I never said Chan will beat but only Chan can beat Browning. Chan in terms of skills already is a better skater than Browning IMO but Chan still has to prove himself in a couple other areas and sure, only time will tell.

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    Stojko's ubers must have all died off ...

    ... or watched their old VHS tapes with fresh eyes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by museksk8r View Post
    A list without Jeremy Abbott, Jeffrey Buttle, and Matt Savoie is just incomplete and wrong I think. For sure, I would have them as being impactful to the sport, much more so than Evan Lysacek, Elvis Stojko, and Todd Eldredge.

    Medals alone do not create impact or a legacy, IMO. For me, the emotions you stir in the viewer and artistic images you create for your audience and etch in their minds and souls are more impactful. Jeremy, Jeff, and Matt consistently do/did this for me. Besides, in terms of medal haul, Buttle's resume is more impressive than Eldredge's. Buttle is an Olympic medalist and like Todd, he has 1 World title too.
    Jeff Buttle was an oversight on my part (Toller Cranston even more so); I am not perfect, and will eat a humble pie on that.

    I have disagree with you about Abbott and Savoie even though I love their skating. It's not all about medals, but you can't completely ignore the medals either. Competing well under pressure, at worlds/Olympics matters. Savoie was clearly undermarked when he was competing because he never got the full benefit of the COP. Neither of these two won a world medal (I am hoping Jeremy will win at least a bronze this year). I do believe that in order to have an actual impact on the sport a skater needs a medal at the world/Olympic level. Sort of like Yuka Sato- without the 94 world title she may not have gotten as much notice as she did as a pro. We always knew she had great basic skating skills, but without the title she might have been an also ran in the pro circuit. Without the 1981 world title, Denise Biellman might have been remembered as that skater with an amazing spin.That's just how I see it.

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    Jeff Buttle and Toller Cranston should be definitely included in the vote. Is there any way to restart the voting process with theses names in?

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    Quote Originally Posted by seabm7 View Post
    Jeff Buttle and Toller Cranston should be definitely included in the vote. Is there any way to restart the voting process with theses names in?
    Yes Yes! Restart restart! Put Michelle Kwan in too! Sorry I couldn't resist...
    for a second time...

    So I decided to write something that was actually meaningful this time...
    This is a very difficult poll, I honestly don't see any one skater that is greater than the rest (Much easier with European one, or the NA ladies), which is why I requested Michelle Kwan She would have my vote

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    Dick Button. Kurt was very good but even if you liked his skating better... There is much more than just his legendary competitive skating career going for Dick Button. He's probably the best NA skater of all-time in any discipline, period.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Proustable View Post
    I'd probably include Toller Cranston before a couple of these guys...
    ITA!

    Was Toller left off the list b/c his skating surpasses that of a mere mortal?

    ETA:

    ITA with you as well Karpenko! Dick Button all the way.

    Is Evan on the list b/c he won Olympic gold and a World championship? Clearly Johnny Weir at his best was superior to Evan artistically, stylistically, inspiration-wise. Obviously, there are names missing from this list. I'd include Charlie Tickner and even Rudy Galindo before Evan Lysacek. Olympic gold, while reputable and everlasting, is not the ultimate measure of greatness. Evan is and will always be known as a great and fierce competitor, but not in my humble estimation, one of the greatest NA singles men skaters.

    ITA with museksk8r as well, re Jeremy, Jeffrey, and Matt!
    Last edited by aftershocks; 02-25-2012 at 06:18 AM.

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    I love SO many guys on this list (Todd, Paul, Kurt, Brian O. in particular), but I had to go with "Uncle Dickie!" Re: Todd & Kurt - it's a shame that neither has an Olympic medal, but I still think they're both wonderful. I would love to see Matt Savoie included in this list, too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by iarispiralllyof View Post
    Dick Button for his competitive career (2 olympic golds, 5 world titles, 7 time US champion ) and technical innovation: he was the first to land the double axel, the first to land a triple jump (triple loop) and the first to do a flying camel
    Don't forget he was also European Champion

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    For me it would have to be Toller, I enjoy watching him the most.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ice_marine View Post
    Without hesitation THE amazing Kurt Browning !
    ^^This. All the way.

    I wouldn't have put Lysacek on here either. His skating pretty much bores me and he doesn't really have the artistic or athletic ability to stand up to the likes of Chan, Abbott, or many others on this list. That and he was part of a lull in men's skating with the ultimately short-lived and failed anti-quad movement.
    Last edited by rosebrallier; 02-25-2012 at 09:27 PM.

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    Jeff Buttle was the best skater at Worlds 2008, winning both short and long program, even scoring alot more points than second place Brian Joubert. Jeff landed every jump cleanly and his artistry was amazing.

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    I'm surprised that Boitano doesn't have more votes. I didn't vote for him but there was a time...during the height of his pro career...that people talked about him like he was the second coming.

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    I voted for Uncle Dick. Not only the amazing competitive record (see above), the technical breakthrews (invented flying camel, first male to perform a camel spin, first 2axel, first triple, and a triple LOOP at that), but think about how many skaters were impacted by his commentating all these years?

    For example, is it really any wonder why the American ladies have had the best layback and spiral positions?

    Not to mention what he did for professional skating when there were no other opportunities.

    I could go on and on...

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    Quote Originally Posted by fenway2 View Post
    I'm surprised that Boitano doesn't have more votes. I didn't vote for him but there was a time...during the height of his pro career...that people talked about him like he was the second coming.
    He probably would have gotten alot more votes if it were 20 years ago. Once Browning fully matured artistically starting in 93 he seemed to be a better skater than Boitano though, and now we have Chan's emergence.

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    Quote Originally Posted by judgejudy27 View Post
    He probably would have gotten alot more votes if it were 20 years ago. Once Browning fully matured artistically starting in 93 he seemed to be a better skater than Boitano though, and now we have Chan's emergence.
    Good point.

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