View Poll Results: Ksenia Makarova's options

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  • Retire

    17 16.50%
  • Get a solid 3-3 and her flip and lutz back in hope she will be given another chance

    40 38.83%
  • Just be contented at least competing in B Competitions

    13 12.62%
  • Revert skating for the US

    3 2.91%
  • Get a citizenship in other former soviet countries ( Ukraine, Belarus, Azerbaijan or Kazakhstan )

    39 37.86%
  • Switch to Ice Dancing or Pairs

    6 5.83%
  • Try out acting and auditions for a Marilyn Monroe role or getting a Chocolate Commercial

    11 10.68%
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    What are the options for Ksenia Makarova ?

    It appears this maybe Ksenia's last season , with the exception of Leonova, it appears the RFSF has already loss interest in her and with the junior ladies coming up in the senior ranks. Ksenia could be done with Korobeynikova who outskated her at Euros and Shelepen may be replacing her at Worlds and more ladies coming up to seniors Sotnikova, Tukt, Lipnitskaya, Radionova etc. in the coming seasons

    what are her best options ?

    1)Retire
    2)Get a solid 3-3 and her flip and lutz back in hope she will be given another chance
    3) Just be contented if ever at least B Competitions will be given to her
    4) Revert skating for the US
    5) Get a citizenship in other former soviet countries ( Ukraine, Belarus, Azerbaijan or Kazakhstan )
    6) Switch to Ice Dancing or Pairs
    7) Try out acting and auditions for a Marilyn Monroe role or getting a Chocolate commercial ( her dream advertisement ).

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    She skated at Euros this season, so if she wants to skate singles for any country other than Russia, she has to sit out all international competitions until July 2014. That means missing out on the Olympics. Not a good choice.

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    I think that Ksenia needs to change a coach - her partnership with Rukavitsyn obviously isn't working. Her programs have never been choreographic masterpieces, but with Petrenko and Zmiyevskaya she at least had the jumps - now the jumps are gone and her LP is as empty as it could be and doesn't play up to her strengths.

    Maybe she should relocate back to the US or, if she intends to stay in Russia - go to Vodorezova, Mishin or Tutberidze (her students are really good jumpers). I really think that Ksenia is a very talented skater and with the right coach she can make a comeback ala Czisny and Kostner. She just needs the right package and someone who would help her get her jumps back.
    Last edited by IneZR; 02-23-2012 at 11:30 AM.

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    I voted every option except #2 and #4.

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    First and foremost, she needs to rework her jump technique. It's obviously not getting her enough height to rotate those harder triples, especially on tired legs.

    This means:

    1. fitness & strength training
    2. perhaps a new coach, if not a jump specialist
    3. run throughs

    Her programs are horrible, but they really are the least of her worries now.

    Alas, even if she succeeds, there is a good chance she will never make a Euro / world / Olympic team again, and this is nothing against her skating but just a manifestation of the depth of Russian ladies skating these days.

    Maybe she can turn pro or skate in made-for-TV ice shows?

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    I really liked her programs in 2010 and 2011.

    This year, her short program was soft and lyrical. I didn't get her Marilyn Monroe free skate with the choppy music cuts at all.

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    Her free skate is really what's dragging her down this year. But even if she reinvents herself and gets her flip and/or Lutz back, I think she'll need the up-and-comers to falter since they're already so strong and will probably improve in the future.

    TBH, I have a feeling that she may end up in the history books as Russia's version of Chisato Shiina.

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    I like her skating but she can't compete against other russian ladies. So, the best would be to find another country to skate for, or to be pleased by B competitions.

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    Come here to England. We will give anyone a passport. With Jenna about to retire we could pull a few strings.
    But on the serious side, she is a young girl who I'm sure saw her entire life involved in skating. So if she has to look at her future options she should be allowed to do so in her own time.
    Imagine this was your daughter & sister?. You would want what's best for her but also what makes her happy.
    If she wants to continue she should & not pay attention to the haters.
    Elena Bechke was told by many that she would never be a good skater but she stuck with it. And though she was never the most talented she got the most out of the talent she had.

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    Quote Originally Posted by IneZR View Post
    I think that Ksenia needs to change a coach - her partnership with Rukavitsyn obviously isn't working. Her programs have never been choreographic masterpieces, but with Petrenko and Zmiyevskaya she at least had the jumps - now the jumps are gone and her LP is as empty as it could be and doesn't play up to her strengths.

    Maybe she should relocate back to the US or, if she intends to stay in Russia - go to Vodorezova, Mishin or Tutberidze (her students are really good jumpers). I really think that Ksenia is a very talented skater and with the right coach she can make a comeback ala Czisny and Kostner. She just needs the right package and someone who would help her get her jumps back.
    Are her parents still here in the US? I felt that her going to Russia was perhaps ill-timed, for her personal life. I believe that she was in the middle of her senior year in high school, which is a big deal for a lot of US kids, so that may not have been easy for her. She'd been coached by her parents and Petrenko/Zmiyevskaya, which seemed to be working for her. Then she left, and it all seemed to fall apart. I didn't think she should leave the US in the first place, and I agree with you - she should come back and perhaps return to Petrenko.
    And so, dear Lord, it is with deep sadness that we turn over to you this young woman, whose dream to ride on a giant swan resulted in her death. Maybe it is your way of telling us... to buy American.

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    Ksenia I think still has dual American and Russian citizenship

    I disagree, Ksenia came at the right time but her peak came
    too early, she and Leonova in some ways were the first wave of new russian ladies skaters, Makarova has competed at the Olympics, Worlds, Euros and GP. not bad at all and she should already be proud of the accomplishments and competing in such huge opportunities given to her. Leonova is not yet ready to give up to the youngsters but Makarova has been sad to say regressing, imo

    if she really does indeed want to continue skating for many more years, she could either switch coaches ( but RSFS has lost ineterest in her now, don't know if this will make a difference ) or switch skating to other countries

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    Quote Originally Posted by judgejudy27 View Post
    I voted every option except #2 and #4.
    I did not realize this was a multiple options poll, so I picked 'skate for another country'. That was before I read Vagabond's post. I believe that eliminates skating for any country other than Russia. Now it seems she may be better off improving her jumps and trying again, or moving to ice dance. Is she too tall to be a pairs skater?

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    Quote Originally Posted by IneZR View Post
    I think that Ksenia needs to change a coach - her partnership with Rukavitsyn obviously isn't working. ..
    I really think that Ksenia is a very talented skater and with the right coach she can make a comeback ala Czisny and Kostner. She just needs the right package and someone who would help her get her jumps back.
    I agree. I never understood the coaching change. I understand leaving Petrenko for a more seasoned coach, but not to go to a coach who's not well known (afaik his only other top student is Konstantin Memshov?). And the fact that it happened mid-season and in the middle of her senior year was really weird and random. Her jumps didn't improve at all... she was fairly consistent before.

    All of the doomsday talk is so Who's to say Lipnitskaya, Sotnikova, and Tuktameysheva won't all sweep the podium in Sochi and retire, leaving the field more open? Some of the Russian ladies have had great longevity. Maria Butryskaya was older than Ksenia in her peak years. Elena Sokolova made the Olympics in 1998, didn't qualify in 2002, and got back to the games in 2006, with a world medal and a few Euro medals in between. Irina Slutskaya also came back from a season when she didn't make the team. If she switches countries she could drop in the standings like Soldatova did for Belarus.

    Ksenia is enjoyable to watch for me because she has the Russian voids but the elegance of one of the US skaters... it's a very rare quality. I hope she sticks around for Russia.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vash01 View Post
    I did not realize this was a multiple options poll, so I picked 'skate for another country'. That was before I read Vagabond's post. I believe that eliminates skating for any country other than Russia. Now it seems she may be better off improving her jumps and trying again, or moving to ice dance. Is she too tall to be a pairs skater?
    If she does not get any international assignments next season, that will force her to do it. Isn't there an ISU proposal to reduce the wait period?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vash01 View Post
    ...Is she too tall to be a pairs skater?
    According to her ISU bio, she's 5.5 1/2.
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    I vote "Other": Skate better than Korobeynikova and Leonova in Nice and get everyone in a frenzy.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kwanfan1818 View Post
    I vote "Other": Skate better than Korobeynikova and Leonova in Nice and get everyone in a frenzy.
    She has been replaced on the Worlds team by Shelepen, so that is not an option

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    can she skate for Canada? of course she will have to wait to become eligible, but at least it's close to where her parents live, and the competition not as fierce as in Russia or even the USA (sorry, my Canadian friends; I didn't mean to offend you).

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    Quote Originally Posted by alij View Post
    She has been replaced on the Worlds team by Shelepen, so that is not an option
    Last word from Piseev was that the Russian Fed will decide after Jr. Worlds. Shelepen's announcement that she was chosen to replace Makarova has been removed from her social media.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vash01 View Post
    can she skate for Canada? of course she will have to wait to become eligible, but at least it's close to where her parents live, and the competition not as fierce as in Russia or even the USA (sorry, my Canadian friends; I didn't mean to offend you).


    but the waiting period would me more than 2 years
    and she will have to wait after the 2014 Olympics

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