Will Gracie Gold really CRUSH the Russians at WJC?

**kwanatic** · 02-09-2012, 06:27 PM

Originally Posted by gkelly

Only if she finds it during the WJC. Otherwise, save it for a separate poll.

And only during the warm-up for the SP...that's important.

**victoriaheidi** · 02-09-2012, 06:38 PM

Hmm...I llike Gracie, but this is getting ridiculous.

So I vote with Michelle Kwan.

**iarispiralllyof** · 02-09-2012, 06:47 PM

the music for her sp makes me burst out laughing randomly cos it's so bad
it's some kind of techno remix of the dance of the sugar plum fairies

**kwanatic** · 02-09-2012, 06:55 PM

Originally Posted by victoriaheidi

Hmm...I llike Gracie, but this is getting ridiculous.

So I vote with Michelle Kwan.

WHOO! Me too!

All hail the KWEEN!!

**skatemomaz** · 02-09-2012, 09:31 PM

Originally Posted by Yazmeen

Now, now, we already have PURPLE in this thread representing the Kween, that's quite enough...

You can never have enough Kween or enough PURPLE!

**Domshabfan** · 02-10-2012, 06:11 AM

Originally Posted by kwanatic

I wouldn't say "star" yet. As of now, she's won a handful of low level events against much less talented opponents. She'll officially become a "star" if she can manage to "CRUSH" the Russians and actually win that junior world title in a few weeks.

Personally, I think she's a good jumper but I'm not nearly as impressed as some people seem to be. Russia's top 5 or 6 ladies are all strong jumpers (Sotnikova, Tuktamysheva, Lipnitskaia, Korobeynikova, Leonova, etc.)...Zijun Li of China is a great jumper...Christina Gao and Agnes Zawadski are great jumpers...it takes more than big and difficult jumps to pull me onto the hype train and as of now, Gracie's a good jumper with decent speed...that's it. Her spins are mediocre, her extension and line need lots of work, her interpretation and presentation are juniorish...she has a lot of work to do in order to be considered a "star" IMO.

Potential star? Absolutely...but she's not there yet. As of now, she's an uber-hyped potential star.

It was an attempt at sarcasm

**Jenna** · 02-10-2012, 06:13 AM

Originally Posted by orientalplane

So I'm a Gracie hater, am I? First I've heard of it. I don't hate anyone.

I'm starting to think the age you list on FSU is a truth.

You should have voted for the other option.

**Vash01** · 02-10-2012, 06:54 AM

Did we really need this poll? Haven't we beaten this horse to death in another thread with a silly title?

**Jenna** · 02-10-2012, 07:06 AM

Originally Posted by Vash01

Did we really need this poll? Haven't we beaten this horse to death in another thread with a silly title?

Relax. Don't take it too seriously. It's not mean to be..

**Domshabfan** · 02-10-2012, 07:08 AM

Originally Posted by Vash01

Did we really need this poll? Haven't we beaten this horse to death in another thread with a silly title?

In the coming days we will see many more topics about Gracie, no matter what the result are at the Jr Worlds, like whether Gracie will have a triple axel next year, will she so her 3-3-3 in the LP. If she wins the Jr Worlds, there will many more polls on her winning senior world and Olympics. If she losses then whether she needs a coaching change, a change in sports psychiatrist, to change in choreographer, to how she remind someone of Kwan, etc, etc. So this is just the beginning, we are bound to see more post on Gracie Gold soon.

Between I am excited to see her jumps and how she develops. However, the hype is very high both from her team and others. i remember the Eurosport guy talking about Gracie at Cup or Russia, this was after the disastrous skate by Gao i believe.. at that point she hadn't even won Jr US title and had only one international competition under her belt. So hype is unparalleled to anything we have seen in recent past, including the Russian Wonder babies.

**Yukari Lepisto** · 02-10-2012, 09:39 AM

I think Julia will win the title with no doubt and probably with quite a big margin... and then it's Gracie, Adelina, and Liza fighting for the 2nd and 3rd place...

**orientalplane** · 02-10-2012, 01:43 PM

Originally Posted by Jenna

I'm starting to think the age you list on FSU is a truth.

You should have voted for the other option.

When I voted you hadn't made the distinction. And it's not necessary to be quite so unpleasant.

**demetriosj** · 02-10-2012, 02:28 PM

[QUOTE=Domshabfan;3475036]However, the hype is very high both from her team and others. i remember the Eurosport guy talking about Gracie at Cup or RussiaQUOTE]

Do you recall the name of the Eurosport guy?

**Vash01** · 02-10-2012, 10:23 PM

Originally Posted by Domshabfan

In the coming days we will see many more topics about Gracie, no matter what the result are at the Jr Worlds, like whether Gracie will have a triple axel next year, will she so her 3-3-3 in the LP. If she wins the Jr Worlds, there will many more polls on her winning senior world and Olympics. If she losses then whether she needs a coaching change, a change in sports psychiatrist, to change in choreographer, to how she remind someone of Kwan, etc, etc. So this is just the beginning, we are bound to see more post on Gracie Gold soon.

Between I am excited to see her jumps and how she develops. However, the hype is very high both from her team and others. i remember the Eurosport guy talking about Gracie at Cup or Russia, this was after the disastrous skate by Gao i believe.. at that point she hadn't even won Jr US title and had only one international competition under her belt. So hype is unparalleled to anything we have seen in recent past, including the Russian Wonder babies.

Actually the hype began long before the Jr. Nationals, with someone here comparing her with Midori Ito and Tonya Harding.

**aftershocks** · 02-10-2012, 10:31 PM

How about: "Will fans of fs ever become sane and level-headed in regard to the next big hyped potential star?"

"Can Gracie Gold just be allowed to breathe, develop, and grow as a skater?"

"Will fs ever become apolitical?"

**topaz** · 02-10-2012, 10:32 PM

I happen to agree that its going to be very very tough. I was impressed with Julia L when I watched the JGPF and Russian Nationals. That kids has small jumps but her presence, musicality and SS are very impressive. The Russian ladies are all polished to be so young, they have alot more experience with going in as the favorite in a competition with other skaters are just as or better skaters. The Russian girls are competing with themselves and their battles are only going to make them all stronger skaters and competitors.

**topaz** · 02-10-2012, 10:34 PM

Originally Posted by Yukari Lepisto

I think Julia will win the title with no doubt and probably with quite a big margin... and then it's Gracie, Adelina, and Liza fighting for the 2nd and 3rd place...

I"m not counting out Adelina and Liza. Adelina's SP at Russian Nationals was perfect. Adelina's SS are fantastic and her presence on the ice is fabulous.

**falling_dance** · 02-10-2012, 10:37 PM

Originally Posted by Jenna

I'm starting to think the age you list on FSU is a truth.

It isn't.

**Domshabfan** · 02-10-2012, 10:46 PM

Originally Posted by demetriosj

However, the hype is very high both from her team and others. i remember the Eurosport guy talking about Gracie at Cup or RussiaQUOTE]

Do you recall the name of the Eurosport guy?

You can hear him speak, i think it is Chris Howarth.http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ngt3ztfLnnM

he talks about gracie around 6:15

**query5** · 02-10-2012, 11:28 PM

i think all 3 u.s. ladies has a chance against russian if they skate well, but you can't count out zijun li, the 3 japanese ladies.

right now i think thetop 10 spots and jr worlds are gone, it is between the u.s 3, russian 3, japan 3, zijun li, and maybe canadian katlyn osmond and others, but but getting the top ten in junior worlds for the ladies will be hard with russia, u.s., japan, china tough fight.

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