"If people are looking for guarantees, they should buy appliances at Sears and stay away from human relationships."~Prancer
It seems that some have difficultly with Demi spending time honing her body and looks as if it is a useless effort. Her profession requires her to not only have some skills in acting but to maintain a BODY THAT THE PUBLIC wants to see. Do we really know that she wants to put that much effort into it? Unless you are a close friend or family member, I suspect not. It is your interpretation of her actions.
Do you or would you criticize anyone who takes what might be a prestigious research or professor position in their many hours of reading, creating work processes and neglect their physical or mental health?
Depression, anorexia, self medicating with illegal substances or even legal substances without doctor supervision, occurs at every level of the socioeconomic level. No family is immune to it - some families have a higher incidence of it. True chemical imbalance is difficult to overcome and doi if you really did great kudos to you, but the majority of people do not without appropriate interventions.
The bigger issue, I believe, is the lack of appropriate healthcare in relationship to mental illnesses. Healthcare insurance companies must recognize how difficult it is to treat since they are very stringent in what type of care and the cap on care they will provide. If they capped cancer treatments or cardiovascular treatments like they do mental illnesses the outrage would be incredible.
We the paying public, created a successful financial background for Demi to be able to pay for her care. If we don't like the preferential treatment we perceive her receiving, then whose fault is that?
Numbers, I don't have a problem with Demi being able to pay form the best possible care. I think it is great. I do wish everyone had access to that quality and quantity of care. What I object to is the notion that her money has no affect on her care or her chances for recovery. Money does help. I don't see anything wrong noting that fact anymore than noting that a lack of money hinders homeless people's medical care and their chances of recovery. Unfortunately, that is just the way it is.
A good rant is cathartic. Ranting is what keeps me sane. They always come from a different place. Take the prime minister, for example. Sometimes when I rant about him, I am angry; other times, I am just severely annoyed - it's an important distinction. - Rick Mercer
Healthcare access for mental illness sucks and especially for the poor, uninsured, under-insured or burden by the outdated insurance system that refuses to recognize that mental illnesses can be treated.. But that is a discussion for PI.
What you said.Money smooths the way in life and makes it more likely that you will get good care for your ills, but it doesn't do a whole lot to keep you from suffering from depression and experiencing unhappiness
So Demi makes more money than most of us do. She worked for it. How does that make her any less deserving of a little compassion?
I always thought she and Bruce Willis had a real connection, even though they divorced. It would be sort of awesome if they explored it again.
Is Demi Moore filthy rich?
Can she afford to take time out and hire the best therapists?
It doesn't change the fact that whether we accept ourselves, whether we believe that we deserve to be loved, is something absolutely central to our well-being.
Research has consistently shown that money does not buy happiness and well-being.
Demi has to deal with her shit just like we all do.
Last edited by Ziggy; 01-27-2012 at 01:09 PM.
fwiw, it never even occurred to me that someone would ever consider you unattractive, ziggy. or unintelligent.
just my .02
Money does not equal a happy, perfect life; it obviously makes some things easier but it's not the be-all and end-all.
As the mother of a son with clinical depression and the granddaughter of a man who killed himself, I just want to say that danceronice's posts are beyond moronic.
"Cupcakes are bullshit. And everyone knows it. A cupcake is just a muffin with clown puke topping." -Charlie Brooker
Watch and learn kids, don't get anywhere near near a PC when .
Last edited by Ziggy; 01-27-2012 at 01:48 PM.
Here's a take on depression I thought was very good. It's not easy to "get over it" -- I feel empathy for anyone that goes through it, no matter how much or little money they have.
You know, being really busy is a great way to avoid actually dealing with things. The purpose of drugs is not to make you happy, it's to enable FUNCTIONING. Depression isn't about not having a life full of "rainbows and butterflies and constant positive affirmations". If that's your impression I doubt you were actually depressed. However, judging from your posts I'm thinking there's a whole lot of denial going on.If you've got time to be depressed, you have too much free time. Get over it and accept life isn't about rainbows and butterflies and constant positive affirmations. You can't drug your way to happy, prescribed or otherwise.
"Ever tried. Ever failed. No matter. Try Again. Fail again. Fail better." -- Samuel Beckett
Congrats on one of the most stupid, insensitive and offensive posts ever posted on FSU, danceronice.
No, people can't simply choose to get over their mental illness.
Of course in order to get better, you need to want it and you need to fight for it but the process is difficult, long, complex and usually involves a lot of therapy and in some cases medication is necessary as well.
Now, if one is an actor, dancer, singer, sportsman, etc., someone who's in the public eye because of their skills/job, they owe the public what they do at/for work and maybe some autographs later. Their private life is their private life. If they decide to share some of it, great, if they want to keep the rest out of the public eye, that's their damn right. Just because you paid $10 for a movie ticket or even $100 for a show, they don't owe you anything more than you paid for. Their private life is, just like yours, to be shared with others at their own discretion. So if they do, be grateful (if you're interested) or bored (if you're not), if they don't, don't demand it or ridicule them for it. Unless their private life is what they're selling. But like said, even then...
I would never expect any celebrity to give me the time of their day when they're out of work. Or share anything about their private life beside what they want to be sharing.
Having said that, I don't get the fascination with other people's private lives, famous or not. And at times when they're hurting? Guess what? We all look the same.