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    A very nice layback position from Mao Asada, one with a great arch in her back and great lean in her sideways position:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XbPbb...eature=related

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    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-nasd...eature=related (3:36)

    Also unusual because she looks down (Kimmie Meissner did this as well).

    This is also a good example of an age-appropriate program for a young teen; much better than the "Baby Carmen" and twinkly "Nutcracker" she did the follow year.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nomad View Post
    Entschuldigung, but you seem to have missed the part of my post where I gave her credit for the arch. Whatever. You seem to like it, I don't, end of, who cares?

    I didn't miss that part but it seems that you didn't get my point. And I do care about things like that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ozzisk8tr View Post
    Many critics complained about Sylvie Guillem (probably the best ballet dancer the world has ever seen) that she was too flexible and was just showing off. I never understood those comments (likewise I don't understand yours about arching less and not turning out so much. Not a dig, I just don't understand . To me it's like saying Patrick Chan's quad is too high or too clean). Every dancer I know would kill to have Sylvie Guillems technique/flexibility/body. I can pretty much guarantee that 99% of girl skaters would kill for Sasha's flexibility/body/layback.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Marco View Post
    Yukina's back is out of this world-ly flexible, which also makes her for a wonderful ina bauer. Shame about her injury and jumping issues. She was so beautiful to watch and oh so promising back in 2003-4 ish. She is probably the most musical Japanese lady skater.
    ITA. Ota remains my absolute favorite Japanese skater, short career non-withstanding.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sasha'sSpins View Post
    I agree.

    Sasha Cohen of course has one of the best laybacks in the business:
    Sasha Cohen 2004 Worlds - SP
    This clip illustrates the point of another thread regarding camera work. Here we have one of the most beautiful spins in skating and what do we see -- a fleeting glimpse of her beautiful back and leg positions, and then a close up where we see virtually nothing of the spin.

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    I have to thank this thread for a) reminding me just how damn good Angela Nikidinov was overall and b) causing me to go on yet another youtube Sylvie Guillem marathon. I worship that woman. She is AMAZING.
    I think of all the layback videos I watched, my personal favorite has to be Naomi Nari Nam's. She had everything-speed, high leg position, and a beautiful back. Dorothy Hamill is a close second for me--hers is the most ethereal to watch. Sasha's was great but I always was disappointed when she didn't hold the first beautiful classic position, and went in to another position that wasn't nearly as aesthetically pleasing.

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    http://www3.pictures.zimbio.com/gi/Z...J3C_DKyLIl.jpg
    This is a really good example of the arch

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    Quote Originally Posted by all_empty View Post
    A very nice layback position from Mao Asada, one with a great arch in her back and great lean in her sideways position:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XbPbb...eature=related

    or

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-nasd...eature=related (3:36)

    Also unusual because she looks down (Kimmie Meissner did this as well).

    This is also a good example of an age-appropriate program for a young teen; much better than the "Baby Carmen" and twinkly "Nutcracker" she did the follow year.
    I love it when she would arch her back like that. She also had a similar but prettier position circa 2009, but decided to scrap it for one that is easier for her to obtain level 4. Boo.

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    A little bit of trivia: Caroline Zhang was the first lady to get full score for the layback: level 4 and +3 across the board.

    Here is her 30 rev layback at 2 min: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t7QSZbv7vVA and her most difficult and complicated layback spin ever: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gQhf7...youtu.be&t=13s
    Last edited by Marco; 01-09-2012 at 01:47 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Marco View Post
    A little bit of trivia: Caroline Zhang was the first lady to get full score for the layback: level 4 and +3 across the board.

    Here is her 30 rev layback: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t7QSZ...outu.be&t=2m0s and her most difficult and complicated layback spin ever: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gQhf7...youtu.be&t=12s

    Neither of those links work

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    I always get a little teary-eyed when I watch baby NCubed skate. What could have been. We were all cheated but most especially Nam. Big sigh and back to cleaning the attic.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Macassar88 View Post
    Neither of those links work
    Fixed

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    Quote Originally Posted by all_empty View Post
    A very nice layback position from Mao Asada, one with a great arch in her back and great lean in her sideways position:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XbPbb...eature=related

    or

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-nasd...eature=related (3:36)

    Also unusual because she looks down (Kimmie Meissner did this as well).

    This is also a good example of an age-appropriate program for a young teen; much better than the "Baby Carmen" and twinkly "Nutcracker" she did the follow year.
    It makes me to see a young Mao. She jumped triple axels like they were double axels. Absolutely no preparation for the takeoff and she somehow had the spring to do it. It's really a shame she didn't have a great coaching situation between 2006-2010 because she should be an Olympic champion (and all of this is coming from someone who initially did not like her skating 5 years ago).

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    Quote Originally Posted by smarts1 View Post
    It makes me to see a young Mao. She jumped triple axels like they were double axels. Absolutely no preparation for the takeoff and she somehow had the spring to do it. It's really a shame she didn't have a great coaching situation between 2006-2010 because she should be an Olympic champion (and all of this is coming from someone who initially did not like her skating 5 years ago).
    or not. we live in a world where midori ito isn't an olympic champion. potential really means very little if you can't pull it off on a very specific day that happens once every 4 years

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    This skater on Youtube has an unusual but gorgeous variation on a sideways leaning spin with a free leg that starts very nicely turned out.

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    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r01lGc9ARkQ Megan Oster had a beauty of one
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    Quote Originally Posted by Marco View Post
    A little bit of trivia: Caroline Zhang was the first lady to get full score for the layback: level 4 and +3 across the board.

    Here is her 30 rev layback at 2 min: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t7QSZbv7vVA and her most difficult and complicated layback spin ever: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gQhf7...youtu.be&t=13s
    That last layback spin... There will never be one that tops it. I just, gah its unbelievable. I really want Caroline to work hard and get her due, the talent in that one spin is just holy potatoes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DBZ View Post
    I know she never really attained a classic turned-out foot, but this is one time I simply don't care.

    This layback is still gorgeous IMO, no matter what Dick says.

    Lucinda Ruh - 1997 Worlds SP

    And no woman can match the arch in Lucinda's back.

    Here it's practically parallel to the ice.

    Lucinda Ruh - 2000 World Pro
    Lucinda Ruh was the best female spinner EVER in my opinion. The speed and the perfect positions were undervalued.

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