The trailer have been around a while.
The problem with Faramir is that they failed to make him actually different from Boromir. Faramir resists the temptation of the Ring, gives Frodo supplies, and lets him go against his father's orders. He does not drag Frodo all the way back to Osgiliath.
Eowyn helps nurse Faramir back to health in the books (after his father tries to get him on a funeral pyre), which they had to leave out of the thetrical version of the movie. They are shown together at the very end of LOTR, but their relationship was one of the better written love stories, IMO.
OK, here goes. I'll start on one and hope we don't get an explosion going.
Frodo and Sam - This relationship is very distorted in the movie in my opinion. There is NEVER any question of Frodo and Sam's loyalty to each other in the book. Frodo does feel some sympathy for Gollum, but he is under no illusions about who and what Gollum is. He always depends on Sam and Sam is always totally loyal to Frodo. They are never parted except when Sam thinks Frodo is dead. Frodo does accept Gollum as a guide and Sam isn't happy about some of the decisions Frodo makes but Gollum's influence never drives a wedge between the two.
I could do 2 pages on Frodo, but I won't. I still watch the movies because of the visual impact but I cringe more and more as time goes on. I so wish Jackson had loved the way Tolkien wrote the book enough to show us Tolkien's characters.
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And don't get me started on ditzy!Legolas (and the fact that he is blond...) and asshole!Elrond, plus the complete removal of Elladan, Elrohir and the Rangers (where did the Elves at Helm's Deep come from? Not the book...)
I also feel miffed that Faramir and Eowyn didn't make it to the movie. I really need to get the extended cuts.
And Aragorn's little speech outside the Black Gate always makes me and because for one, it sounds an awful lot like the speech at the climax of "Independence Day" and two, the Rohirrim aren't technically "Men of the West". But whatever.
Also, I kinda felt that having Frodo shove Gollum off the end of the cliff thingy missed the point a little.
I feel like Jackson is trying to correct some of the stuff he had to leave out of LOTR by stuffing it into The Hobbit. I don't know if it'll work. Really not a fan of the creepy Gandalf/Galadriel vibe I get from the trailer and if they make Elrond an ass again I think I will throw something. Elrond is my favourite character.
And is it just me or do the dwarves look kind of... non-dwarvish?
I also get really really annoyed with how they changed Aragorn. When the events in the movie take place he had known (and accepted) that he was the heir of Elendil for sixty years. Under the tutelage of Elrond and Gandalf he had been preparing for the possibility of reclaiming the throne. He had carried the broken sword with him and it was reforged for him BEFORE they even left Rivendell in the first book. He declared his title openly before the doors of Meduseld in Edoras etc., etc., etc., etc. There was none of this "He turned from that way long ago" type comments from Elrond or the "I don't think I can do this" type comments from Aragorn. It's just ridiculous.
I've never read the books, so I don't know why was left in, cut out or changed. I'm just telling you what Jackson said about the change to Faramir.
I think Jackson's vision for the trilogy worked at the broader level, as a spectacle. There's a lot of wow factor in there. But if you look at the characters and their relationships, there are multiple places where he could have remained truer to the books without sacrificing the cinematic storytelling.
I also remember from the DVD that the actor playing Faramir (his name escapes me at the moment) read the books and was surprised by the changes to the character when he got the script. When he questioned it, he was told what I mentioned above from Jackson. I bet the actor would have liked it to stay truer to the book too.
Re Frodo and Sam. I think that the problems between them show how the ring was taking hold of Frodo and changing him- when he sends Sam away, it was the ring talking, not him. So it emphasizes the power of the ring and how it was building as they got closer to Mordor.
I know. But I do not approve. And I am not resigned.
(Edna St Vincent Millay)
So .... getting back to The Hobbit ...
I'm was less than thrilled at the prospect of The Hobbit being 2 movies ... but 3?!? C'mon.
At this point I'm sorely tempted to skip the movie theatre experience altogether and just watch the whole thing at once on DVD. (Of course I won't, I'll drag myself out there -- but I retain the right to bitch about it.)
But if I see any more blogs or reviews referring to it as a "LOTR prequel" I might have to hurt someone.
The prequel thing drives me nuts. It's not phantom menace.