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    Quote Originally Posted by reckless View Post
    I guess it depends on what you mean by recognition, since there are some performances that have been nominated, but not awarded. Christian Bale in Empire of the Sun is one standout. Here are a few others:
    Well, this is kinda assuming that these performances weren't nominated for oscars because they came from child actors, no?

    I mean, only 5 people get nominated each year in each acting category. There's always going to be actors who get passed over for a myriad of reasons that have nothing to do with age.

    There are tons of other equally powerful performances each year that I feel go unacknowledged by the academy, many of them I would argue were better than a lot of the performances in your list.

    But that's subjectivity for ya. The Oscars are about 80% politics and 20% actual merit IMO, so it's futile to try and compensate for those who fall through the cracks because the list would then be endless.

    Yeah, some deserving kid might lose out because he's a child actor, but another well-deserving actor might go unrecognized because he's black, or Asian, or in a low-budget film, or doesn't have Harvey Weinstein backing them, etc.

    Should they each be given their own category?

    Oh, one last thing:

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    Christina Ricci - The Addams Family
    Um, seriously? An oscar nod for that performance?

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    Quote Originally Posted by michiruwater View Post
    I'm still surprised that Kirsten Dunst wasn't nominated for Interview With A Vampire. It was a very difficult role and she was entirely believable.
    I agree here. Definitely deserving of a nomination.

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    I don't think the category would help anyone. Because, in all honesty, what does a kid need with an Oscar? Oscars clearly don't project long-term success, and, as Colin Firth said, they're basically the pinnacle of someone's career. Just look at one of my favorite Broadway kids, Andrea McArdle (who didn't win the Tony): her main selling point is a role she played at age 12. Has this benefitted her? Sure, she's recorded some CDs and done some roles, but why peak before puberty?

    Really, an Oscar isn't going to push a kid any further in life.

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    I question how much a child can really act, versus just playing him or self. Good acting requires a capacity for self-reflection and the observation of others. I'm not sure at what age that capacity becomes actualized, but I doubt it is before the teen years.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Japanfan View Post
    Good acting requires a capacity for self-reflection and the observation of others. I'm not sure at what age that capacity becomes actualized, but I doubt it is before the teen years.
    During the teen years, yes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by victoriaheidi View Post
    Really, an Oscar isn't going to push a kid any further in life.
    It'll give him a bigger paycheck for his next few projects, which could financially set him and his family up nicely if they play their cards right. An acting career can be fleeting for most, so it's best to grab a big a piece of the pie as you can while you still got "IT".

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    An example for someone who I think deserves a nomination this year, despite her age, is Mélusine Mayance from Sarah's Key. I find it disheartening that I haven't heard her name mentioned even once as someone who deserves a nomination. I don't even know if she is among the nominees in the all of these critic awards or if they only post winners.
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    Quote Originally Posted by victoriaheidi View Post
    I don't think the category would help anyone. Because, in all honesty, what does a kid need with an Oscar? Oscars clearly don't project long-term success, and, as Colin Firth said, they're basically the pinnacle of someone's career. Just look at one of my favorite Broadway kids, Andrea McArdle (who didn't win the Tony): her main selling point is a role she played at age 12. Has this benefitted her? Sure, she's recorded some CDs and done some roles, but why peak before puberty?

    Really, an Oscar isn't going to push a kid any further in life.
    Gwyneth Paltrow was not a child when she won but sometimes I get the sense she might think "too much too soon." I'd rather not see this category.

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    How many actors that won an Oscar as a child went on to a distinguish acting career as an adult? Tatum O'Neill didn't. Anna Paquin is working steadily, but I think her acting is merely adequate.

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    Quote Originally Posted by orbitz View Post
    How many actors that won an Oscar as a child went on to a distinguish acting career as an adult? Tatum O'Neill didn't. Anna Paquin is working steadily, but I think her acting is merely adequate.
    Patty Duke won a competitive Oscar and worked steadily, including (or especially) television. Can't think of other child actors who won other than the two mentioned above. I'm sure Patty won Emmys, wrote books, etc.

    ETA: I'd say no to a special child actor Oscar category.
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    Quote Originally Posted by orbitz View Post
    How many actors that won an Oscar as a child went on to a distinguish acting career as an adult? Tatum O'Neill didn't. Anna Paquin is working steadily, but I think her acting is merely adequate.
    More than 95% of the members of the Screen Actors Guild don't work steadily, so by that measure anyone who manages to get roles on a regular basis is doing more than all right. If you mean "distinguished" as in receiving further awards, critical praise, etc., then yes, I would agree that most child actors don't reach that stage, but Anna Paquin has at least managed to stay in the business.
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    Quote Originally Posted by orbitz View Post
    It'll give him a bigger paycheck for his next few projects, which could financially set him and his family up nicely if they play their cards right. An acting career can be fleeting for most, so it's best to grab a big a piece of the pie as you can while you still got "IT".
    If money is all that matters. I know a lot of kid actors who tasted a lot of success too soon and have other, bigger issues now that things aren't happening the same way they did when they were younger.

    Plus, honestly, I don't know if having the money is worth it unless the kid's family can manage it properly. Look at Lindsay Lohan. I wonder where her fortune went.

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    If you're going to have an Oscar for "children" then it's only fair to have one for "seniors" too.

    IIRC some recipients of the old miniature Oscars weren't always that pleased with them (i.e. they wanted the bigger statues the same as everyone else got.)

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    Quote Originally Posted by snoopysnake View Post
    If you're going to have an Oscar for "children" then it's only fair to have one for "seniors" too.
    How about one for animals as well? (They now have acting classes for dogs - seriously.)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Japanfan View Post
    How about one for animals as well? (They now have acting classes for dogs - seriously.)
    I'm guessing those classes are more based on training than anything? It takes serious work to train a dog or cat or whatever to work in entertainment.

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    I would say Anna Paquin's acting is pretty terrible at times. I say this as a huge True Blood fan.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BigB08822 View Post
    An example for someone who I think deserves a nomination this year, despite her age, is Mélusine Mayance from Sarah's Key. I find it disheartening that I haven't heard her name mentioned even once as someone who deserves a nomination. I don't even know if she is among the nominees in the all of these critic awards or if they only post winners.
    Agreed - she was fantastic. Just as good, if not better, than Saoirse Ronan in Atonement.

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    Quote Originally Posted by victoriaheidi View Post
    If money is all that matters. I know a lot of kid actors who tasted a lot of success too soon and have other, bigger issues now that things aren't happening the same way they did when they were younger.

    Plus, honestly, I don't know if having the money is worth it unless the kid's family can manage it properly. Look at Lindsay Lohan. I wonder where her fortune went.
    Up her nose me thinks.
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    Quote Originally Posted by victoriaheidi View Post
    I'm guessing those classes are more based on training than anything? It takes serious work to train a dog or cat or whatever to work in entertainment.
    Yes, training and working with the animal's natural instincts and behaviours. I'm particularly amazed by cats in the movies, given how difficult it is to train most cats.

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    The Daytime Emmys had a category for best young actor/actress. (Maybe they still do, I don't know. My soaps no longer exist so I don't follow that world anymore.) But I never understood how the age breakdown worked because they'd have actors in their late teens and early 20s competing against nine-year-olds.

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