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    Tentative 2014 US Nationals Schedule

    I've only been attending Nationals since 2001 and missed 2002 live. Is this schedule a first in terms of "front loading" Senior events?

    TENTATIVE EVENT SCHEDULE (subject to change):
    MAIN ARENA
    Tuesday, Dec. 31, 2013
    - Event load-in at main arena
    Wednesday, Jan. 1, 2014
    - Official practice sessions
    - Officials Meeting
    Thursday, Jan. 2, 2014
    - Senior Pairs Short Program
    - Senior Ladies Short Program
    Friday, Jan. 3, 2014
    - Senior Short Dance
    - Senior Menís Short Program
    Saturday, Jan. 4, 2014
    - Senior Pairs Free Skate (Finals)
    - Senior Ladies Free Skate (Finals)
    Sunday, Jan. 5, 2014
    - Senior Menís Free Skate (Finals)
    - Senior Free Dance (Finals)
    - 2014 U.S. Championships Skating Spectacular
    SECONDARY ARENA (subject to change)
    Sunday, Jan. 5, 2014
    - Official practice sessions
    Monday, Jan. 6, 2014
    - Novice Menís Short Program
    - Novice Pairs Short Program
    - Novice Ladies Short Program
    - Novice Compulsory Dance
    - Junior Short Dance Program
    Tuesday, Jan. 7, 2014
    - Novice Menís Free Skate (Finals)
    - Novice Pairs Free Skate (Finals)
    - Novice Ladies Free Skate (Finals)
    - Novice Free Dance (Finals)
    - Junior Free Dance Program
    Wednesday, Jan. 8, 2014
    - Junior Ladies Short Program
    - Junior Menís Short Program
    - Junior Pairs Short Program
    Thursday, Jan. 9, 2014
    - Junior Pairs Free Skate
    - Junior Menís Free Skate
    - Junior Ladies Free Skate

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    I guess being an Olympic year, they want the team settled as quickly as possible. Being only a few weeks after the GP Final isn't going to give some skaters much "down time."

    On the plus side, I might get an extended holiday vacation.
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    Quote Originally Posted by peibeck View Post
    I guess being an Olympic year, they want the team settled as quickly as possible. Being only a few weeks after the GP Final isn't going to give some skaters much "down time."

    On the plus side, I might get an extended holiday vacation.
    It will probably mean that I will be working during the Christmas to New Year's break. But that's OK with me.

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    The novice & juniors would be held entirely in the secondary arena, possibly allowing the main arena to be reserved for a smaller length of time (and therefore maybe saving some money?)?

    Not sure how early skaters typically arrive at Nationals, but it looks like the senior ladies & pairs, and possibly the men & dance teams, would be spending NYE in Boston? (hopefully Boston )

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    I suspect TV wants skating content the first weekend in January. I don't like it, but from a financial standpoint USFS probably doesn't have much choice.

    It's not great for folks attending the event when the juniors and novices follow the seniors, for obvious reasons. Occasionally in the past we've had something like Junior Ladies FS after Senior Ladies FS, but never anything like this schedule.

    It's too bad there won't be any novice and junior winners skating in the exhibition.

    The airfare for spectators with the outbound leg coming at the end of the holiday season will be a major ouch.

    Wonder why the schedule doesn't include the juvenile and intermediate events.

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    Quote Originally Posted by acraven View Post
    Wonder why the schedule doesn't include the juvenile and intermediate events.
    It doesn't look like the sched for Omaha does, either - all-event tix only mention Novice-Senior. I guess tix for the (formerly) JN events will be sold separately. Really, for these prices, they should include those events in the all-event package. Not many people will be interested, but for die-hard skating fans who are willing to pay those prices, we should be able to watch the younger skaters.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aaron W View Post
    The novice & juniors would be held entirely in the secondary arena, possibly allowing the main arena to be reserved for a smaller length of time (and therefore maybe saving some money?)?
    Lots of secondary arena choices if Boston will be the successful site and that Nationals would be held in Boston proper. Options include Agganis Arena(Boston University), Bright Arena(Harvard University) and Matthews Arena (Northeastern). Agganis would be great in terms of location and accessibility

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    well those dates mean I won't be going. Close is that week...

    Maybe 2014 is the year for TEB again

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    What about the Juvenile and Intermediate schedule?

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    Since the OLY in Sochi begin on Feb 7th, I suspect that they want the skaters prepared and/or rested before the games.

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    The GREAT news here is that all of the senior events will happen within the same timeframe, rather than splitting Men & Pairs off from Dance & Ladies, with a week in between, as was tried in 2010. This affords a great excuse to continue the Holidays Merry-making!
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    Last time I remember the US Championships were that early was in 1992, also an Olympic year, when they began January 3. But the normal schedule was followed and we still had the figures events that year. They Olympics started Feb. 8th that year. It worked out just fine.

    I don't like the schedule with the Seniors first making the event anti-climatic. The Exhibition will be stupid because it won't include the Novice and Juniors. I think this sends the wrong message to Novice and Juniors. They could start 12/27 and keep the normal schedule and still end the same day. Or they could back it up to Dec 10, after GP Finals. I think I'll write the Director of Competition and see if they even considered that or what their thinking was when they selected those dates.

    This is not a good week for TV with all the college football. There are several games New Years Eve and that weekend but the BCS Championship is the following weekend so I suspect that NBC will not be broadcasting any bowl games that year.

    I know it's a struggle to squeeze 4CCs in before the Games but perhaps that should be held earlier in the season.

    The schedule is just plain dumb. They better award it where there is a huge fan base or the audience might look a bit empty.

    Of course, many won't want to deal with the weather in Omaha in 2013 either.

    It is what it is....

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    Quote Originally Posted by acraven View Post

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    The airfare for spectators with the outbound leg coming at the end of the holiday season will be a major ouch.

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    Ann, you know USFS doesn't really consider fans. With live online coverage, more and more fans are opting for that rather than attending events. I didn't even think about airfare when I posted but you are absolutely correct, it will be expensive. This may be another event I will skip. I wonder where Worlds will be that year? Or perhaps the GPF will be a good option instead.

    I did not get Omaha tix but thanks for the call and email about tix sales!

    I hope to see you in San Jose!

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    The other thing I think this schedule may effect is All Event Tickets. Looking at it, if I was able to go this one would be "Championship Weekend" (Saturday and Sunday only)

    Generally I try to do some of the Junior events but haven't done Novice in years and can't see me staying after the weekend for Novice. (It's not that I don't like Novice, it's just that I don't have the time or $$$ to spend a full week at Nationals so I have to skip something) This same time of "mess" resulted in no All Event ticket for Spokane since I went only on the weekends.

    So to whomever bids on this.. realize that a lot of the "hype" they will tell you about how many fans/$$$ this will bring in are not based on "spending New Years at a skating event" LOL!

    This schedule is just bad in so many ways. Once again the USFSA shows thier "contempt" of fans.

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    I would be very surprised if pleasing NBC wasn't the major factor in this schedule.

    I've been attending since 1990. This is a first for a schedule like this for me. Have I missed where 2014 Nationals will be held? Which city? If I were the bidding city, I would absolutely HATE this schedule. I think the only hope is it's listed as "tentative".

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    Quote Originally Posted by kwanette View Post
    Since the OLY in Sochi begin on Feb 7th, I suspect that they want the skaters prepared and/or rested before the games.

    It's too late now as the GPF is set, but I wish they'd moved up the start of the season by 2 weeks with the games being so early!

    And mid December would have been a better time for US Nationals, as that is somewhat of a "dead spot" on the college football calendar.

    Ya know...there's always skating on during the holidays anyway, I wonder if NBC will ever push to have Championship weekend between Christmas and New Year's? Probably not, the bigger bowl games start on Christmas eve.

    It's so wierd that there is NFL on 1/1 this year. That's supposed to be a day for college football players!
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    This schedule makes Sr. Nationals feel like a Grand Prix event. Four days to get it all done. As I die hard fan, I prefer a more traditional event, but in an Olympic year, it should be all about what is best for the athletes. Is this best for them? I hope so.

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    Quote Originally Posted by A.H.Black View Post
    I've been attending since 1990. This is a first for a schedule like this for me. Have I missed where 2014 Nationals will be held? Which city? If I were the bidding city, I would absolutely HATE this schedule. I think the only hope is it's listed as "tentative".
    This tentative schedule ("subject to change") is what is included in USFS' bid package/request for proposal for 2014 Nationals -- deadline for host cities to complete and return their applications is by February 3, 2012.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kwanette View Post
    Since the OLY in Sochi begin on Feb 7th, I suspect that they want the skaters prepared and/or rested before the games.
    That's probably what is going on, kwanette.

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    Don't a lot of "arenas" have events on 12/31? So USFS expects them to give up that money for this??? IFFY IMHO! (I know that the arenas where I live have always seemed to have some "concert" on NYE.

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