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    Windows XP Support Ends April 2014

    For anybody who does not know, Microsoft will be ending Windows XP support in April 2014. I normally replace my computers every 3 years, and I have been fortunate in that I have been able to keep on using Windows XP (avoiding the dreadful Vista, and the not much better Windows 7). It has also mean't that I have been able to avoid having to unnecessarily replace my software.

    However, as Windows XP support ends in April 2014, change is now unavoidable. Anybody using Windows XP won't get the normal updates, which will mean that they will be increasingly vulnerable to viruses, trojan's, and all sorts of other nasties as time goes by.

    I have just acquired a Windows 8 computer. As I bypassed Vista and Windows 7, I have to say that it is a pain in the neck getting to grips with it. I also had to throw out a lot of my old software and replace it (e.g. I had to replace Adobe Acrobat 7 with Adobe Acrobat Xi Pro, as 7 would not work on Windows 8)

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    I have no idea what to do. I'm gonna stick with XP for now and take my chances.

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    Be careful, Rex. Antivirus companies will stop providing updates for their XP products as well later this year. We decided to get a cheap Win7 box to replace our shared desktop. I'm going to ignore Win8 until Microsoft gets it's sh!t together and gives us an OS shell for real work.
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    I may have to buy a new desktop - I think XP is as high as my Dell Dimension B110 goes. I have an acquaintance who works for The Geek Squad - I might have to call him. I thought about going back to Linux, but it's a total PITA for a non-computer geek to operate.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aceon6 View Post
    Be careful, Rex. Antivirus companies will stop providing updates for their XP products as well later this year. We decided to get a cheap Win7 box to replace our shared desktop. I'm going to ignore Win8 until Microsoft gets it's sh!t together and gives us an OS shell for real work.
    Windows 8 is still a total mess apparently, right?

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    I'm thinking of going with a Mac to avoid the viruses without installing an antiviral software, even though it will be more expensive than a PC.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ziggy View Post
    Windows 8 is still a total mess apparently, right?
    It's not a mess, it's just got a lot of interface features that are useless if you're using a "regular" laptop or desktop (as opposed to a smartphone or tablet). But a single click takes you to the desktop that looks pretty much exactly the same as 98/XP/ME. It still has the odd goofiness but they're very easy to get used to.

    And it's still about 10,000 x better than Vista.

    Hey, if my 75-yr-old computer-phobe of a mother can make the transition from her Win95 computer to Windows 8 with barely a blip ... anyone can do it.

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    I recommend anyone try an OS before they buy, if they can. It's one thing to hear reviews from other people, it's another to try it out yourself.

    Apple Stores make this super-easy, of course. There's not much to do in an Apple Store besides play with the wares. Maybe Best Buy and Staples, etc are still good for something? IIRC they had display setups of laptops with the latest OSes.

    I haven't used any Windows OS newer than XP, because my old job still stuck with them. I guess they can't anymore. I've had a Mac at home for a few years. I do design, so it makes sense, but a Mac is IMO overkill for people who don't do artistically-related things.

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    So if I have hundreds of documents all created in Word, Excel, Powerpoint versions 2003/2007, will I still be able to open them if I get a new computer with Windows 8? Will I be able to copy them all onto a new computer with Windows 8?

    So getting one with Windows 8 would be better than getting one with Windows 7?

    And really, the only problem will be if you go on the internet, right? So I can keep my old tower unit with Windows XP on it and still use it to access stuff thru the desktop, just don't go on the internet with it to be safe?

    no technik.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BaileyCatts View Post
    So if I have hundreds of documents all created in Word, Excel, Powerpoint versions 2003/2007, will I still be able to open them if I get a new computer with Windows 8? Will I be able to copy them all onto a new computer with Windows 8?
    Yes.
    I run Office 2007 on my Windows 8 computer without any problems.
    If you can get Office 2010, go for it, I used it at work and it's really good.

    So getting one with Windows 8 would be better than getting one with Windows 7?
    No. Windows 7 is 3575642 times better than 8. I think it's actually better than XP.
    Microsoft alternates between good and crap OS.
    XP - good
    Vista - crap
    7 - good
    8 - crap
    Hopefully, they'll come up with something better next time (8.1 doesn't count).

    I don't think they sell new home computers with W7 anymore, and you can't just downgrade to W7 from W8 (god knows I tried with mine...).

    And really, the only problem will be if you go on the internet, right? So I can keep my old tower unit with Windows XP on it and still use it to access stuff thru the desktop, just don't go on the internet with it to be safe?
    Not really. if browser updates still work on XP, you're good to go. Just stay the freck away for Internet Explorer.
    Anti-virus software might be a problem, though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rex View Post
    I may have to buy a new desktop - I think XP is as high as my Dell Dimension B110 goes. I have an acquaintance who works for The Geek Squad - I might have to call him. I thought about going back to Linux, but it's a total PITA for a non-computer geek to operate.
    I was able to score a Dell Inspiron 3000 series with Win7 for around $400. Shop around and check Amazon, too. The newest stuff is more than powerful enough for the average user.

    As for Apple being less susceptible to viruses, don't count on it. XP is the easiest to crack so hackers have been focusing on it. Once most users get on a more secure platform, hackers will have to move on.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Artemis@BC View Post
    But a single click takes you to the desktop that looks pretty much exactly the same as 98/XP/ME. It still has the odd goofiness but they're very easy to get used to.
    Oh, please, tell me where to click!

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    So, first the French Federation threatens to withdraw support from Gwendal XP (and will probably do so soon), then Microsoft goes ahead and withdraws support from Windows XP.

    Coincidence? I think not.


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    Quote Originally Posted by JasperBoy View Post
    Oh, please, tell me where to click!
    Just click on the Desktop icon. Depending on what's installed with Win8 it may take a while to find that icon among all the other apps, but you can rearrange the opening screen apps so that the Desktop one is front and centre.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Artemis@BC View Post
    It's not a mess, it's just got a lot of interface features that are useless if you're using a "regular" laptop or desktop (as opposed to a smartphone or tablet). But a single click takes you to the desktop that looks pretty much exactly the same as 98/XP/ME. It still has the odd goofiness but they're very easy to get used to.
    Last I heard, there were some issues with graphics not working correctly in some of the Blizzard games and after looking into it, it was determined that it's one of the recent Windows 8 updates that was the cause of that. So I'm wondering whether there's possibly more issues like that popping up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by beepbeep View Post
    I don't think they sell new home computers with W7 anymore, and you can't just downgrade to W7 from W8 (god knows I tried with mine...).
    HP has recently started selling computers with Win 7 again.

    My current computer is Windows 7. 2 years old and I'm hoping it lasts a long time, to avoid Win 8 for as long as I can. I hope the successors to Win 8 are a lot more like Win 7, but I'm not holding my breath. My previous computer was Vista and that was a PITA.

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    This is why I went ahead last October and purchased a new laptop with Windows 7 on it. I still have my old Dell laptop with Windows XP, and I only use it to make videos and play some games on. I plan on disabling the internet from my old Dell before April comes around. There are other things that can be done with an old laptop or PC like the things I just mentioned. Photos, documents, etc. can also be stored on the old Windows XP laptop. It's sort of like having an extra external hard drive for storage.
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    I decided to do some research about Windows XP SP3 after the support expires in April. I've found some very good tips that will keep Windows XP running pretty well after the Microsoft support and the security updates expire.

    It means that Internet Explorer 9 will also no longer be supported in Windows XP. I downloaded and installed Mozilla FireFox. I then made it the default browser for Windows XP. There will continue to be updates in Windows XP for Mozilla FireFox to make it secure. I already like FireFox and it also transferred my favorites/bookmarks which was really nice.

    If you're using Microsoft Security Essentials for your antivirus, don't uninstall it. Microsoft will continue to provide virus and spyware dfinitions (updates) until April of 2015. If you don't have Microsoft Security Essentials, you can use Avast Free. Avast Free will continue to provide updates for Windows XP.

    I'm sure there may be other antivirus programs that will still provide updates, but you have to look for them.

    Uninstall Adobe Reader if that's what you're using with Windows XP. It's very susceptible to getting viruses - now more than ever with Windows XP. I'm using Foxit Reader and it protects against security vunerabilities.

    It also would be a good idea to disable Java in the browser because it will also carry security vuneralbilities in windows XP. Go to the control panel and select the classic view. Look for the Java icon, and click on it. Select the "security" tab at the top. Uncheck the box that says "Enable Java". I've already disabled it on my old laptop with Windows XP.

    One other security measure I am using is Glarysoft Utilities which is free to download. There are several useful tools including tracks eraser, registry cleaner, spyware remover, malware remover, shortcut fixer, disk repair, temporary files cleaner, startup manager.

    After using Glarysoft for about month, I decided to purchase Glarysoft Pro because of the other valuable tools. There was a sale on it at the time which around 12 dollars. I was able to put Pro on both my laptops. You're actually able to install the Pro on three PCs if you have that many.

    I'll be mainly using my new laptop to get on the internet, but I feel my old laptop will be more safe with these tips that I found.
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    I replaced my old laptop recently and guess I'm probably going to have to get a new desktop as well - need both for my work.

    Windows 8 is awful. Mr. Japanfan, my tech support, found and bought a programs for digressing it - not much, under $10. I think.

    But it's still a huge hassle. And now you have to pay quite a bit for Microsoft Office. It was at least $100 over the cost of the computer itself.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Simone411 View Post
    It means that Internet Explorer 9 will also no longer be supported in Windows XP. I downloaded and installed Mozilla FireFox. I then made it the default browser for Windows XP. There will continue to be updates in Windows XP for Mozilla FireFox to make it secure. I already like FireFox and it also transferred my favorites/bookmarks which was really nice.
    Both Chrome and Firefox are far superior browsers in any case.

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