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    They apparently have a verdict but are waiting to announce it. Could come any time within the next 90 minutes.

    I am hearing that if she is freed she needs to leave Italy as quickly as humanly possible because the Prosecution will press charges again. There is not a double jeopardy law in Italy? How awful! They can continue to charge her forever, even if she is acquitted 10 times?
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    Quote Originally Posted by BigB08822 View Post
    When will the verdict come? Isn't it getting late in Italy?
    Actually what I heard on the news was that as early as 1 pm would have been their best guess. So I don't think that it is a little late to hear as yet.
    All networks have promised to break into broadcasting to announce the verdict, which seems a bit overkill to my mind

    Oops you posted the above post by the time I finished this post

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    Quote Originally Posted by BigB08822 View Post
    I am hearing that if she is freed she needs to leave Italy as quickly as humanly possible because the Prosecution will press charges again. There is not a double jeopardy law in Italy? How awful! They can continue to charge her forever, even if she is acquitted 10 times?
    Would it be an acquittal or an overturning of a previous verdict? Even in the states the prosecutors can refile if a verdict is overturned on appeal.
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    CNN banner indicating the announcement will be at 3:30 E.T., which seems very late in Italy. Do courts issue decisions that late? (Other than emergency injunctions and stays of death sentences I can't remember many here.) Not sure what, if anything, the timing implies.

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    Quote Originally Posted by milanessa View Post
    There's no deadline. It was only guessing on the US media's part that suggested a verdict will be rendered today.
    I just saw on Twitter that the verdict will be read at 3:30 PM EST, according to CNN.

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    The Italian court system is totally different than the US system, so I don't think you can read anything into anything. The fact they don't bother to sequester the jury and can and did use wildly circumstantial evidence is just bizarre in a capitol case.
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    Quote Originally Posted by rfisher View Post
    The Italian court system is totally different than the US system, so I don't think you can read anything into anything. The fact they don't bother to sequester the jury and can and did use wildly circumstantial evidence is just bizarre in a capitol case.
    ITA. That's why I am not getting my hopes up for Amanda.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rfisher View Post
    The Italian court system is totally different than the US system, so I don't think you can read anything into anything. The fact they don't bother to sequester the jury and can and did use wildly circumstantial evidence is just bizarre in a capitol case.
    Quote Originally Posted by Vash01 View Post
    ITA. That's why I am not getting my hopes up for Amanda.
    I know. I think this is very political for the Italian system and I don't think they will allow themselves to look like they can get it wrong. I feel like Amanda's chances are very slim. If anything, I think they will just lower her sentence but I can't see them setting her free. I really hope I am wrong.
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    Didn't they even want to turn her sentence into a lifelong one this time?
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    she'd get more help if she was some clueless hitchhiker wandering about countries we dont get along with
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    Here is a CNN article that answers many questions.

    http://www.cnn.com/2011/10/02/world/...html?hpt=hp_t1

    My gut feeling is that they will not acquit her- it's a political decision. They will want to save face. However, they may reduce her sentence to something like 16 years (same as the actual killer).

    If Amanda is cleared (low probability), she can leave for the USA, after completing the paperwork. What about Raffael? He may have to seek asylum, or something. I don't know how he could survive in a hostile environment.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Moka-Ananas View Post
    Didn't they even want to turn her sentence into a lifelong one this time?
    Yes, the prosecution is asking that they give her a life sentence this time. If that happens then I hope there is some serious media attention.
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    Man, after reading several of the comments here, I wasn't sure if I was in the Amanda Knox thread or had stumbled upon one about the West Memphis Three .

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    An article from MSNBC:

    http://worldblog.msnbc.msn.com/_news...-in-knox-trial

    Note the last sentence. That may be the reason they will not acquit her, no matter what the evidence says.

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    If anyone is not on board with painting Amanda Knox as a wrongly imprisoned victim, go read Charles Mudede's posts on the Stranger blog (www.slog.thestranger.com). He is more than a little obsessed with her and her bewitching ways.

    I'm not sure if Knox had anything to do with the murder. I think it's unlikely, but not impossible. The trial, and the evidence presented, however, were a complete joke, and her conviction should be thrown out. Like others, I don't hold out a lot of hope for it, though.
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    That link comes up as a "domain name for sale" for me, gen.
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    The reading of the verdict has been pushed back the 3:45 EDT.

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    Seriously...both of the OJ verdicts were read on my birthday. This needs to stop!

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    Quote Originally Posted by milanessa View Post
    That link comes up as a "domain name for sale" for me, gen.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BigB08822 View Post
    From what I recall, Amanda was basically convicted for being a nasty American bitch.
    She is for the following as far as I'm concerned:

    Knox is also appealing an additional charge for which she was convicted: Defamation of Patrick Lumumba, the club owner whom Knox accused of killing Kercher. He was arrested but released after his alibi checked out. He later sued Knox for libel, winning 40,000 euros ($54,000) in damages.
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