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    I had forgotten how wonderful that program was.
    It's a great shame that injury curtailed her career; NNN really had that special "something".

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    Chen Lu's was awesome

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    Quote Originally Posted by Macassar88 View Post
    Chen Lu's Rach 2 is my favorite skate of all time. I love it so much.
    absolutely and M/D

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rock2 View Post
    1. M/D. They were the only ones to bring a beautiful darkness and passion to the music that others chose not to tap in to.
    I agree, I just adore their dark interpretation of it and wish other skaters would try something similar. There is a video somewhere with Dick Button gushing over it and them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bartek View Post
    Lower quality and less complex non-jump elements (spins in particular) than Slutskaya, Cohen and Arakawa? Boring free skate with no choreography and connection to the music? No difficult transitions between elements? Skating skills great but Slutskaya and Arakawa had them too. This is possibly one of the worst Rachmaninoff prorams in terms of choreography... How could Lori have created this piece of nothing?
    I know! Especially after Lori gave her that excellent Carmen Fantasy LP the year prior and a great Latin SP the same year she choreographed that bore of a LP. I never understood how Suguri settled for that LP in Torino. However, I did love her dress in Torino.
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    Quote Originally Posted by falling_dance View Post
    1. Robin Cousins, 1991 World Pros TP (Rach 2)
    1. Chen Lu, 1996 Worlds LP (Rach 2)
    3. Michelle Kwan, 1998 Ultimate Four SP (2nd Piano Trio; Rach 3 finale)
    4. Mishkutenok/Dmitriev, 1994 Olympics LP (Rach 2)
    This !

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vash01 View Post
    Rachmaninoff is one of the most popular composers when it comes to FS, and there have been many great performances skated to his music. I had to limit my list to 12 (I tried limiting it to 10, but it did not work )


    Without ranking
    , here are my favorite FS performances skated to Rachamninoff's music:
    Thank you for this idea and your great list, Vash01. I am really glad that I was completely wrong about your attitude towards the artistic aspect of skating .

    Also thanks to falling_dance.

    I have to admit that I either hadn't seen, or had forgotten most of those programs. I started to really get into figure skating just a few years ago - watching it on TV just from 2005 (I had no TV for five years prior to 2005, and had watched figure skating very superficially before that). I have watched older performances on Youtube, of course, but there's still so much that I haven't seen. So, thanks once again for pointing out those great performances. I have watched (or, in some cases, rewatched) them only once for now, so it's hard to make a real top. It's also difficult to compare competition programs with exhibition programs, as well as older programs with newer ones. But currently my favourites (in no particular order) are Chen Lu, Robin Cousins, Gordeeva/Grinkov, Mishkutenok/Dmitriev, Gordeeva with her 'Elegy', Sale/Pelletier (even when not performed very well ) and Lambiel (of course - I try to be objective when it comes to him, but it's not easy). Some of the others are close, though.

    Unfortunately, I couldn't find Cohen's program. And I only found a video of Gordeeva's 'Elegy' at German 'Stars on Ice' in 1997 - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WJ7eyPTDWHg.

    As for Lambiel's 'Prelude in G minor', that certainly is not the best video of it (bad angles - especially on the spins, far-off views at the wrong moments, and so on). Better try watching this - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Z9qw...eature=related, or this (without the annoying commentary) - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XQnJn...eature=related.
    Last edited by lauravvv; 10-27-2011 at 10:18 PM.

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    I'm partial to Sasha's (though I haven't seen many of the others). I loved the way she'd draw herself up and glare at the ice right before the footwork section.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vash01 View Post
    Here it is. I love her maturity, her expression, her musical interpretation.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZCRaoNfU0r8
    Definitely my favorite. Probably Sandra Bezic's best choreography.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lauravvv View Post
    Thank you for this idea and your great list, Vash01. I am really glad that I was completely wrong about your attitude towards the artistic aspect of skating .

    Also thanks to falling_dance.

    Robin Cousins, Gordeeva/Grinkov, Mishkutenok/Dmitriev, Gordeeva with her 'Elegy',

    Unfortunately, I couldn't find Cohen's program. And I only found a video of Gordeeva's 'Elegy' at German 'Stars on Ice' in 1997 - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WJ7eyPTDWHg.

    As for Lambiel's 'Prelude in G minor', that certainly is not the best video of it (bad angles - especially on the spins, far-off views at the wrong moments, and so on). Better try watching this - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Z9qw...eature=related, or this (without the annoying commentary) - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XQnJn...eature=related.
    No problem (about the artistic stuff).

    I can't believe I forgot 'Elegy'! I loved Katia's with her emotions, particularly. However, my most favorite 'Elegy' skate is by B&S at the 1998 exhibition (also at the 1997 European exhibitions). It was so pure, elegant, beautiful that Dick Button exclaimed- :"This is what skating is about!" I will look for the YT link for this and for Sasha's Rach2 LP also.

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    Here is Sasha Cohen in 2003

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gg3gq2NUtHA

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vash01 View Post
    However, my most favorite 'Elegy' skate is by B&S at the 1998 exhibition (also at the 1997 European exhibitions). It was so pure, elegant, beautiful that Dick Button exclaimed- :"This is what skating is about!" I will look for the YT link for this
    Yes, I couldn't find that either. I will look for the 1997 Europeans exhibition.

    Here is Sasha Cohen in 2003

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gg3gq2NUtHA
    Thank you.

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    Another favorite:

    Adam Rippon - 2010 Japan Open
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XLTw8A79EKQ

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    Quote Originally Posted by lauravvv View Post
    Yes, I couldn't find that either. I will look for the 1997 Europeans exhibition.


    Thank you.
    I have both of those B&S Elegy programs (1997 ex & 1998 ex) on tape. I just don't know how to put those on YT so that everyone can see how beautiful they were even without much skating time together.

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    I have a soft spot for the Rach2 LP that put Denis Ten on the map at Worlds (choreo by Tarasova).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vash01 View Post
    No problem (about the artistic stuff).

    I can't believe I forgot 'Elegy'! I loved Katia's with her emotions, particularly.
    Actually, you didn't forget it . I found it because you had it in your list . So, thanks once again.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lauravvv View Post
    Actually, you didn't forget it . I found it because you had it in your list . So, thanks once again.
    In the OP, in the following link it's incorrectly listed as 'Adagio' and not as 'Elegy by Rachmaninoff'. It's at the 12:10 mark.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O8Vd-2DTU1g

    First I thought they only had excerpts and not whole programs, but they are complete programs.

    I also loved their ex in the 1997 European, in black & white costumes. They were new on the scene, but there was a lot of feeling in that program- even more than the one in 1998. Elena had more expression than she ever did, IMO, with the exception of the 1997 worlds SP (Million waltz). This one will be tougher to find on YT. I am happy to have it on a tape, but need to copy it to a DVD before it disintegrates.
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