Alexander Fadeev was first in CF at Calgary.
Witt did not always benefit from figures. From 1981-1983 she was hurt a great deal by figures. She would the short program at every Worlds during that period, and won the combined short-free skating porition at the 82 and 83 Worlds so would have won gold at both without figures. From 86-88 she would have found herself in tougher against people like Ito and Manley without figures though.
Nah, I don't think any of the 2010 OGM winners are going to do it. I can't see Lysacek beating Chan anymore, S/Z are gone, V/M will probably be gone although if by some miracle they do stick around, they could beat D/W for a second OGM. I think Yu-Na's lost some of her sizzle, and one of the new Russians ladies or more than one could overtake her.
Virtue & Moir have the best chance.
Of course it is really difficult, but in fact, not so many skaters tried it.
Alexei Urmanov failed it. Mishkutienok&Dmitriev failed it. Evgeny Plushenko failed it. Viktor Petrenko. Who else ?
"If I agree well it's just to appease you 'cause I don't remember what were fighting for..." - Sarah McLachlan
Valova/Vasiliev came 2nd in 1988, losing to Gordeeva/Grinkov like M/D did.
V&V had no chance against a clean G&G by 88. G&G had to make a major error like the 88 Worlds for an inspired V&V to capatilize.
Okay 1988 calgary olympics ladies.
1. Ivanova (only footage I've seen wasn't impressive but who am I to say?)
2. Thomas (she won the final two figures after a bumpy start, footage looks great)
3. Witt (maybe gifted? the footage is unimpressive)
5. Trenary (pulled up after bad first figure, very nice loop figure)
6. Kadavy (started strong but folded under pressure)
10. Ito (not bad for her at the time)
1. Witt (not her best performance but the judges wouldn't be denied)
2. Thomas (very good though some spins were slow)
3. Manley (def. gifted - her combo wasn't so hard and her spins travelled too much)
4. Ito (would win after 1990 but 3rd would be right for standards of the time)
5. Kadavy (probably underrated but withdrew with flu before lp)
9. Leistner (fell on a spin...)
1. Manley (best match between jumping ambition and developed presentation)
2. Witt (too much posing)
3. Ito (would win by later judging standards but I'd still have her after Manley)
4. Thomas (kind of a gift but it didn't matter overall in terms of standings)
5. Trenary (pretty good debut overall, but the sport was headed in a different direction)
6. Leistner (hot mess of a program but I have a soft spot for her)
7. Konrashova (object of Peggy Fleming girl crush)
I often feel sorry for Jill since it feels like she was caught in between two eras and wasnt able to totally shine in either one. Then again she did still get a World title which Kadavy who I consider an even more talented skater didnt get, so maybe I shouldnt feel too badly for her.
^I didn't know that about Thomas winning two of the three figures. She had good edges!
I remember in the overview that ABC did about ladies' figures in '88, that Witt had a strong first figure and maybe won that but faded, yet held onto 3d.
Did Ivanova win any of the 3 figures?
I think Leistner underperformed in figures. She was higher at '87 Worlds.
Ivanova won the first figure (though in the footage below the tracings were pretty far apart) Witt was second, Kadavy third (!) and Thomas fourth.
Here is some footage. I always enjoyed listening to Peggy Fleming rag on Witt's figures.
Witt was so overmarked in figures. I am sure it was political. There is no way her figures were regularly better than Leistner or Trenary who she regularly beat, usually by multiple placings, in figures.