Looks like they're following the same schedule Greensboro had.
It won't be any harder to find a venue with this new addition of Juv/Int. It will be easier than finding a club/council of clubs to take on Junior Nationals, which is just as much work (or more) than Regionals and Sectionals -- and isn't always as profitable (particularly compared to Regionals). You can dig up financial info in the bid packets on the USFS website. The overall number of club members are way down compared to 10-15 years ago when Junior Nationals was created -- something had to change. There are now VERY FEW clubs (or councils comprised of multiple clubs) with both the facility, location, and volunteer force to support our 9 Regionals, 3 Sectionals, Junior Nationals, Sr. Nationals.
The expectation is that the Juvenile / Intermediate events (formally used in Junior Nationals) will be scheduled during the "down"/"slow" time of the current nationals -- likely the Thursday-Sunday at the Champions end of the event. In some instances, the events may be held at the official practice facility, which has a schedule that winds down at the end of nationals week anyway, so it's a great way to fill dead ice at the official practice facility -- as well probably adding about 40% more money from US Figure Skating for the 40% more athletes added to "big" U.S. Nationals.
Keep in mind that Juvenile / Intermediate events will be MUCH smaller -- including only the top 4 from each of the 3 sections (cutting it down to 12 skaters at nationals, instead of approximately 40 at nationals in each event).
They won't necessarily need more judges. They already have plenty of the judges there, and for those officials who serve only on dance or pairs panels it will actually make nationals a better use of their time and expense. If additional officials are needed, it will be few, and probably only for three days of expense.
For the coaches (and the parents that pay their fees) it's actually much easier, since many (maybe close to a majority) of Junior Nationals coaches also have students at "big" Nationals. This saves the coaches an additional week away from their training rinks, and allows skater's families to save significant money on travel expenses since there may be more students of that coach competing there that week. This also allows the Juvenile/Intermediate skaters a chance to compete in January (instead of December) -- which is better for those still in traditional school (and some virtual programs), and for those parents who have limited vacation days to travel each year. These factors in particular played a big part in the rationale behind this decision.
If you'd like for me to copy/paste all of the rationale (I think it was a few pages in length) from the Governing Council packet (it's publicly available) -- I'll be more than happy to do so this weekend. It goes much more in depth on the pros/cons and rationale behind this decision. Just ask! Or perhaps Sylvia has a link to a thread on this topic that was already discussed at length this spring? I imagine it has.
Last edited by Rochelle; 01-06-2012 at 03:19 PM.
Actually I kind of like the idea. Not sure I can make it for the entire week, but I would like to see these two groups and it's not an event I would have traveled for otherwise
Does anyone know the schedule or location for the juvenile/intermediate events?
But the reason I was replying- Nebraska is in Southwesterns? That is a weird name for that region... (then again, in Iowa we are Upper Great Lakes, and it only barely makes sense, by the time you get to the Dakotas it makes none at all... Of course, I just found out Alabama is in Eastern Great Lakes... The regions make sense just fine- but the names, none at all.)
Omaha is in San Jose selling. Pick your seat, avoid the fees
Edit: I had just finished submitting this when my mom called, and so I asked her, and she said there was a reception a couple hours for people involved in 2013 Omaha Nationals, and they talked about planning and stuff. Everything I said above is wrong :O Now, they will be using the older, smaller Civic Auditorium (still a very nice facility) for the juvenile-intermediate events, and only one surface there, for practice and competition. There will be the large arena surface and a temporary surface in the Century Link for novice-junior-senior events, one rink for practice and the other for competition. No worries though- Apparently there will be a shuttle bus between the Civic and the Century Link, and it's not even a mile away, takes about 5 minutes in bad traffic to drive, and less than 15 minutes to walk.
Last edited by julianaqtpi; 01-28-2012 at 03:27 AM. Reason: adding updated info
You're in Iowa? I assume that's why the Ames and Des Moines references? If so, random question that belongs in the trash can- are you competing at Omaha Winterfestival in four weeks?
Thanks Julianaqtpa. I wonder when they will actually have a schedule.
We aren't sure if I'll be able to volunteer in any way- apparently the sweepers must be 8-15 (this is tentative, it could change within the next 10 months or whatever) years old, and I'll turn 16 in December 2012. If they say the age is as of the competition, I'll be able to be a sweeper (assuming I make it past the tryouts... They probably want little skaters, and I'm the same level as some of the competitors, and at least 2 years older than the oldest Juvenile skaters....). If not, then there will be absolutely NOTHING I can do to volunteer. Nothing. And most of our skaters who are steady enough to be sweepers will be too old to be a sweeper, and not old enough to be an official volunteer! UGH sorry, just ranting. Anyways, the point of this was to say that my family and I bought four weekend passes! We got THIRD FREAKING ROW seats for only $217 each or something crazy like that! We just decided to get them while they were a good price and available, so yay!
For all you local people, there will be a special on NBC local news this Monday night, the 30th, on the 10pm news, about the local skating community and Nationals next year. They interviewed me Watch for it!
I do wonder when the Junior National event schedule will be announced, I'd like to know.
I really want to go to Regionals at Intermediate level this fall and at least try for Sectionals and then Nationals, it would be amazing if I could make it... But I know it's very unlikely I would.
Well you never know! Good luck to you. It would be great if you could make it to Nationals since its in your town. The daughter of a friend of mine was first alternate in juveniles this year and I'm really hoping she makes it next year because my husband and I met in Omaha and it would be fun to go back.
This is trash can material. Sorry :O
"Randy [Starkman (1960-April 16, 2012)] lived by the same motto as the rest of us. The Olympics isn’t every four years, it’s every single day. He just got it." --Canadian Olympic kayaker Adam van Koeverden
Have the announced auditions for award presenters? Those skaters/volunteers are usually older and might be a perfect fit for our omaha poster.
Thanks to a heads-up from Sylvia, I can post this link to a USFS press release with some tentative information about Juvenile and Intermediate events in Omaha: http://www.usfsa.org/Story.asp?id=48274&type=media
The release gives tentative dates of Thursday, January 24, through Sunday, January 28, for the the Juv/Int events. Competitive sessions will be held at the Omaha Civic Auditorium; practices, at the Omaha Convention Center, where the higher-level events will also take place.
I haven't checked a map, but julianaqtpi stated upthread that the two venues are less than a 15-minute walk apart.
I hope these sessions will be broadcasted...I'm always very interested in watching the future of US skating!
Is that the expected date range for the Championship events? If so I wonder how much coverage they'll devote to juveniles and intermediates.